IAM Withdraws NMB Election Application
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I see 699 continues to be a day late and a dollar short
But in this case probably hundreds if not thousands of cards
Short.
You were an excellent statesman for the FAiLD, INEPT, NASTY
F/A drive at delta
Though your continued hypocrisy does surprise me
Instead of those looking to blame everyone first. Clean your
Own house first. But the house of cards that the IAM built
At Delta is falling fast
But in this case probably hundreds if not thousands of cards
Short.
You were an excellent statesman for the FAiLD, INEPT, NASTY
F/A drive at delta
Though your continued hypocrisy does surprise me
Instead of those looking to blame everyone first. Clean your
Own house first. But the house of cards that the IAM built
At Delta is falling fast
Kev3188
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So which one of you will join me in calling for a full investigation of what has transpired? You're all for accountability/transparency, right?
Anyone?
No?
How about codemning your (our) co-worker's "call to arms," then?
Anyone?
No?
How about codemning your (our) co-worker's "call to arms," then?
Agreed The IAM needs to be investigated they need to clean house
I've been saying all along that they may have had 12000 cards but NOT
12000 f/a's signing cards. This was based on the activists behavior and reputation of the IAM
I'm sure some have a problem admitting there is a problem but they need to look in the mirror first.
I hope to guess this isn't a "great day for the IAM"
I've been saying all along that they may have had 12000 cards but NOT
12000 f/a's signing cards. This was based on the activists behavior and reputation of the IAM
I'm sure some have a problem admitting there is a problem but they need to look in the mirror first.
I hope to guess this isn't a "great day for the IAM"
Kev3188
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Not what I asked.
Again, will you stand with me and agree that a full one should be conducted (IAM, DL, the NMB, etc.)?
Nothing about KLJ's "call to arms?" You're on the BDBD site, right? Did you see this when originally posted? If so, did you call it out?
Again, will you stand with me and agree that a full one should be conducted (IAM, DL, the NMB, etc.)?
Nothing about KLJ's "call to arms?" You're on the BDBD site, right? Did you see this when originally posted? If so, did you call it out?
Let's hear you ONCE call out he IAM for their
Inept FAILED campaign. This "investigation " should start at the
IAM, and if necessary go wherever it may lead. But the notion
That the IAM is blameless in obsurd,
Remember it's a long fall from that high horse you're on.
Inept FAILED campaign. This "investigation " should start at the
IAM, and if necessary go wherever it may lead. But the notion
That the IAM is blameless in obsurd,
Remember it's a long fall from that high horse you're on.
Kev3188
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Again, a deflection.
In case you missed it the first several times around, I am calling for full disclosure/transparency all around. Shine a bright light on the whole thing and let's see where the road leads. DL employees deserve at least that much.
Same story with KLJ's "call to arms."
So will you stand with me?
In case you missed it the first several times around, I am calling for full disclosure/transparency all around. Shine a bright light on the whole thing and let's see where the road leads. DL employees deserve at least that much.
Same story with KLJ's "call to arms."
So will you stand with me?
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I don't have a dog in the hunt, but something doesn't look right to me.Kev3188 said:
If the IAM didn't have a good source of employee info, then I find it hard to fault them for fraudulent cards.
If the Facebook screenshot is any indication of the lengths the pro-company people were willing to go to, then it's not out of the question that there were some intentionally fraudulent cards filled out, especially if they knew that the IAM couldn't fact check them.
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BABABOOY said:
What Kev is asking for is a full investigation, hoping that this was company interference , thus demonizing the "Evil Corporations", furthering his and others pro-union agenda!Kev3188 said:
Answer this Kev, would you rather know, before you vote, if the IAM were guilty of falsifying cards or does it really not matter, as long as a Union, any union, gets voted in asap?
And if, the IAM were found guilty of falsifying cards, would you still vote them in?
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I am interested in the whole story, regardless of where it leads.
Are you with me?
Are you with me?
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let's get a few things clear.
Kev wants an investigation to lay the blame for the IAM's abject failure at anybody's feet but the IAM. THAT and THAT ALONE is what this BS about an investigation is about.
The IAM or at least its supporters at DL used company information including employee phone numbers and employee numbers to create a survey and to contact employees about why they haven't filled out a card - even though there were DL FAs who said they never wanted to.
DL employee numbers are the property of Delta Air Lines and are not be used for any other transaction outside of DL without DL's consent and that simply did not happen.
If there is any investigation, it should be DL determining who accessed its employee related systems in order to obtain information to pass to the IAM.
DL, not the IAM, should be launching investigations but not for the reasons that Kevin wants. No, Kevin, we are NOT with you.
Kev is out on his own left-wing witch hunt that is far more likely to backfire in his face than reach the goals he says he has been after.
The IAM screwed up, it was happy to ride on the coattails of a few DL employees who fraudulently used DL information for non-DL reasons, and a few people need to get it thru their heads that if any investigation is launched it will further deepen the hole that the IAM and its few DL employee supporters are in.
As I said pages ago, the best course for those employees is to STFU and walk away in defeat; further fanning the flames and calling for investigations only increases the risk that DL just might start "kipping" a few more people.
How anyone with the slightest bit of common sense cannot see that is simply behind comprehension.
Kev wants an investigation to lay the blame for the IAM's abject failure at anybody's feet but the IAM. THAT and THAT ALONE is what this BS about an investigation is about.
The IAM or at least its supporters at DL used company information including employee phone numbers and employee numbers to create a survey and to contact employees about why they haven't filled out a card - even though there were DL FAs who said they never wanted to.
DL employee numbers are the property of Delta Air Lines and are not be used for any other transaction outside of DL without DL's consent and that simply did not happen.
If there is any investigation, it should be DL determining who accessed its employee related systems in order to obtain information to pass to the IAM.
DL, not the IAM, should be launching investigations but not for the reasons that Kevin wants. No, Kevin, we are NOT with you.
Kev is out on his own left-wing witch hunt that is far more likely to backfire in his face than reach the goals he says he has been after.
The IAM screwed up, it was happy to ride on the coattails of a few DL employees who fraudulently used DL information for non-DL reasons, and a few people need to get it thru their heads that if any investigation is launched it will further deepen the hole that the IAM and its few DL employee supporters are in.
As I said pages ago, the best course for those employees is to STFU and walk away in defeat; further fanning the flames and calling for investigations only increases the risk that DL just might start "kipping" a few more people.
How anyone with the slightest bit of common sense cannot see that is simply behind comprehension.
Kev3188
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I'm calling for accountability no matter where it may lay, and not one of you has the courage to even agree in principle that it's the right thing to do.
Amazing.
Amazing.
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