Just a hint of advice, I don't think that mentioning that an Express carrier's mechanics making more than mainline mechanics really helps your argument of the benefits to the IAM deal.
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Just a hint of advice, I don't think that mentioning that an Express carrier's mechanics making more than mainline mechanics really helps your argument of the benefits to the IAM deal.
awausairtech
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well it helps the boys that RIDE ON OUR SHIRT TAILS
PhxRanchHand
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Ok 700, are you dodging these questions... I see you have responded to other post since on here
well we are waiting for answers...
PhxRanchHand
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well I thought that you seem to know everything about us and our motivations and with 17 years in the iam, you would have known that the iam did try to organize HP just before the IBT came in. In the vote for the iam they lost by about 5 to 1... I would say most techs here remember that and the desire to stay iam free is still here.
OK, you didn't know that one, what about the other q's abot the transition agreement you speak of and how we would chose our stewards and officials here???
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ROFL...."trade unionist"??? You are not a trade unionist 7, except as defined by YOURSELF. "Coat tails" is a very real situation, it has nothing to do with being an elitist. There are different skill levels in this business, as you are well aware, each has a set of responsibilities that goes with that particular job. IMHO the pay should be directly proportional to the responsibilities required for the applicable job. I am certain that there are people who will disagree with my opinion. The majority of them have less responsibilities than the people that should be paid more. (I am not saying a license premium is enough pay for more responsibilities).
NeedForSpeed
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Gonzo...You hit the nail on the head with this post. Just understand that certain people in "union positions" cannot, and will NEVER ever understand this reasoning. In this bussiness, resposibilty alone should be a factor as to why AMT's should earn MUCH more than their counterparts in the aviation industry(No, 700, not talking about pilots, or F/A's).... But i'm sure this reply will earn me the distinction of "hateing unions", "being an elitist",BLAH, BLAH, BLAH...ROFL...."trade unionist"??? You are not a trade unionist 7, except as defined by YOURSELF. "Coat tails" is a very real situation, it has nothing to do with being an elitist. There are different skill levels in this business, as you are well aware, each has a set of responsibilities that goes with that particular job. IMHO the pay should be directly proportional to the responsibilities required for the applicable job. I am certain that there are people who will disagree with my opinion. The majority of them have less responsibilities than the people that should be paid more. (I am not saying a license premium is enough pay for more responsibilities).
PhxRanchHand
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Ok you are getting better, another one answered
Still what "transition agreement" talks have taken place as to what they want transitioned to????
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I would like to see those that disagree your statement that with increased responsibility, there should be increased pay. Just as you said, there ARE different skill levels, different levels of responsibility and the pay must be commensurate. I don't pay the plumber the same as I do the newspaper guy. And I agree also, the "coat tail" situation needs to be cleaned up. It's pretty clean already on the west side.ROFL...."trade unionist"??? You are not a trade unionist 7, except as defined by YOURSELF. "Coat tails" is a very real situation, it has nothing to do with being an elitist. There are different skill levels in this business, as you are well aware, each has a set of responsibilities that goes with that particular job. IMHO the pay should be directly proportional to the responsibilities required for the applicable job. I am certain that there are people who will disagree with my opinion. The majority of them have less responsibilities than the people that should be paid more. (I am not saying a license premium is enough pay for more responsibilities).
awausairtech
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Bob is not a AMT, Iam and look at it this way.I GET PAYED WHAT A STOCK CLERK GETS PAYED OR YOU CAN Look at it this way I GET PAYED WHAT AMT GETS PAYED AND DID NOT HAVE TO FINISH HIGH SCHOOL
awausairtech
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Sorry Bob I got a 26 inch screen and it was so full of IAM BS I lost track of who was who. 
:blink: I learned that Bob is no fan of the IAM and seems to think IBT is the way to go:
http://www.usaviation.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=27121
I think socialist is more the term. Wealth distribution is the name of the game.
700 fails to realize that in the real world non-skilled labor maxes out at a certain level (take a cook in a kitchen ($13-$14) is the max out rate. I wouldn't say there is much more skill involved in loading bags or dumping lavs to cooking food (an exception would be a chef, not cook, who went to a culinary school). It takes some training, a week, maybe two, and just about anyone with the desire to work hard and take pride in their work can do it.
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