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[N628AU]

PSA Mechanics represented by the IAM top out at more then a mainline mechanic.

Keep trying.

Just a hint of advice, I don't think that mentioning that an Express carrier's mechanics making more than mainline mechanics really helps your argument of the benefits to the IAM deal.

 

[awausairtech]

well it helps the boys that RIDE ON OUR SHIRT TAILS

 

[700UW]

Spoken like a true elitist and not a trade unionist.

Guess you learned nothing from Bob Owens' Post, an AMT for AA.

 

[PhxRanchHand]

Answer this 7, as you have stated before, the iam is in transition negotiations with the company. what has been dicussed and agreed. If the iam does weasel it's way in, when do we elect our stewards and such here, are there plans to have anyone here be on the transtion team or does the iam just want to %$%**$$(*&6 us like they have let ya'll get it( ramp also) We just don't believe in rolling over for the comapny

On an unrelated note. Did the iam ever try to organize HP before the IBT came in??????

Ok 700, are you dodging these questions... I see you have responded to other post since on here


well we are waiting for answers...

 

[700UW]

I don't know if the IAM had tried to organize HP or not.

 

[PhxRanchHand]

I don't know if the IAM had tried to organize HP or not.

well I thought that you seem to know everything about us and our motivations and with 17 years in the iam, you would have known that the iam did try to organize HP just before the IBT came in. In the vote for the iam they lost by about 5 to 1... I would say most techs here remember that and the desire to stay iam free is still here.

OK, you didn't know that one, what about the other q's abot the transition agreement you speak of and how we would chose our stewards and officials here???

 

[700UW]

The same way as it is chosen at East now, people would be appointed in the interim till elections are held.

 

[gonzo]

Spoken like a true elitist and not a trade unionist.

Guess you learned nothing from Bob Owens' Post, an AMT for AA.

ROFL...."trade unionist"??? You are not a trade unionist 7, except as defined by YOURSELF. "Coat tails" is a very real situation, it has nothing to do with being an elitist. There are different skill levels in this business, as you are well aware, each has a set of responsibilities that goes with that particular job. IMHO the pay should be directly proportional to the responsibilities required for the applicable job. I am certain that there are people who will disagree with my opinion. The majority of them have less responsibilities than the people that should be paid more. (I am not saying a license premium is enough pay for more responsibilities). 🙂

 

[NeedForSpeed]

ROFL...."trade unionist"??? You are not a trade unionist 7, except as defined by YOURSELF. "Coat tails" is a very real situation, it has nothing to do with being an elitist. There are different skill levels in this business, as you are well aware, each has a set of responsibilities that goes with that particular job. IMHO the pay should be directly proportional to the responsibilities required for the applicable job. I am certain that there are people who will disagree with my opinion. The majority of them have less responsibilities than the people that should be paid more. (I am not saying a license premium is enough pay for more responsibilities). 🙂

Gonzo...You hit the nail on the head with this post. Just understand that certain people in "union positions" cannot, and will NEVER ever understand this reasoning. In this bussiness, resposibilty alone should be a factor as to why AMT's should earn MUCH more than their counterparts in the aviation industry(No, 700, not talking about pilots, or F/A's).... But i'm sure this reply will earn me the distinction of "hateing unions", "being an elitist",BLAH, BLAH, BLAH...

 

[PhxRanchHand]

The same way as it is chosen at East now, people would be appointed in the interim till elections are held.

Ok you are getting better, another one answered
Still what "transition agreement" talks have taken place as to what they want transitioned to????

 

[AIRWOMAN]

ROFL...."trade unionist"??? You are not a trade unionist 7, except as defined by YOURSELF. "Coat tails" is a very real situation, it has nothing to do with being an elitist. There are different skill levels in this business, as you are well aware, each has a set of responsibilities that goes with that particular job. IMHO the pay should be directly proportional to the responsibilities required for the applicable job. I am certain that there are people who will disagree with my opinion. The majority of them have less responsibilities than the people that should be paid more. (I am not saying a license premium is enough pay for more responsibilities). 🙂

I would like to see those that disagree your statement that with increased responsibility, there should be increased pay. Just as you said, there ARE different skill levels, different levels of responsibility and the pay must be commensurate. I don't pay the plumber the same as I do the newspaper guy. And I agree also, the "coat tail" situation needs to be cleaned up. It's pretty clean already on the west side.

 

[awausairtech]

Spoken like a true elitist and not a trade unionist.

Guess you learned nothing from Bob Owens' Post, an AMT for AA.

Bob is not a AMT, Iam and look at it this way.I GET PAYED WHAT A STOCK CLERK GETS PAYED OR YOU CAN Look at it this way I GET PAYED WHAT AMT GETS PAYED AND DID NOT HAVE TO FINISH HIGH SCHOOL

 

[700UW]

Bob Owens is an AMT at AA.

 

[awausairtech]

Bob Owens is an AMT at AA.

😳 Sorry Bob I got a 26 inch screen and it was so full of IAM BS I lost track of who was who. :blink: 😀

 

[N628AU]

Spoken like a true elitist and not a trade unionist.

Guess you learned nothing from Bob Owens' Post, an AMT for AA.

I learned that Bob is no fan of the IAM and seems to think IBT is the way to go:

http://www.usaviation.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=27121

ROFL...."trade unionist"??? You are not a trade unionist 7, except as defined by YOURSELF. "Coat tails" is a very real situation, it has nothing to do with being an elitist.

I think socialist is more the term. Wealth distribution is the name of the game.

700 fails to realize that in the real world non-skilled labor maxes out at a certain level (take a cook in a kitchen ($13-$14) is the max out rate. I wouldn't say there is much more skill involved in loading bags or dumping lavs to cooking food (an exception would be a chef, not cook, who went to a culinary school). It takes some training, a week, maybe two, and just about anyone with the desire to work hard and take pride in their work can do it.