Well, us on the west side have given quite a bit of time to the IAM to get us our new contract and weve seen nothing. All they keep talking about it their furloughs and the 22 idiots in PHL. The west is still making wages placed on them in 2000 and the IAM is sitting on the pot. Well get off of it and get us our money. Im here to say that if the west side is left out of the year end bonus based on profit there will be alot of people not working the few days following. The IAM needs to get us our contract and needs to get it soon. Especially the money they plastered everywhere that we would recieve if the IAM took over. They should also be doing something about how the PHX ramp is now starting off at $9 and hour and all the FS and LAS is still making $7.50. They need to do something and do it soon. maybe get with the pilots about this cost neutral ####. They told TWU cost neutral and they said F off. So Im asking the IAM when are you gonna do something for us but throw our grievances down the toilet, especially the ones that were set for arbitration before the IAM took over.
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wings396
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Don't be in any type of a rush to get under the current IAM-CBA. I assume that you are in a large station where your job may be safe, but keep those in the outstations in your thoughts. When they cram the IAM contract down your throats, many of those stations will be outsourced. It may not be a big deal to you now, but when those people start relocating to your station it sure will. 
robbedagain
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You wont have to worry about receiving a darn thing from the IAM. all they care about is the HIGH DUES they receive from their members. THe iam wont do squat for yuo now they didnt before the merger so why would they do so now
Tim Nelson
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Alpa just got your company to agree to additional pay according the TheStreet article by Ted Reed. And that was just the tip of the iceberg for what ALPA will cost the company for merging two operations. And with a projected $1billion profit for 2006 I think ALPA's demands are fair.
OTOH, even though fleet service is in similar situation, ie., West has an open contract subject to negotiations, the IAM has done nothing that has manifested itself in any semblance of increased pay/benefits. FWIW: The IAM does have a great negotiations stance since it can hold a position that requires and forces your company to keep two fleet service operations that is much more costly than operating one 'unit'. Plus throw in the fact that your company may profit $1 billion before the end of the year. At any rate, quite unlike negotiating with a bankruptc carrier.
Unfortunately, I think the IAM will take care of the IAM and screw over the members both at HP and US. Its history demands it.
I have so far never been wrong about the IAM but I do admit I have been wrong on other things. I would love to be wrong about the IAM and for the IAM to finally prove they are anything more than a political beast for the 'full-blown' liberals and a cost to the working people.
As a side, I do give the IAM points for not selling out 'yet' like the IBT/CWA did for automatic recognition and no election. Even I admit the IAM's politics were a slam dunk in negotiating the TWU the heck off the property. I didn't agree with it but I do admit their politics and manufactured spin is upper eschalon.
Separately, if it does come down to another sellout then I do think it is likely a decert can take place given the attitude of PHX, LAS, CLT and a host of other stations. Contacts have been made to get this done once the IAM fails the workers again. If the IAM supports justice then no decert would be attempted.
Basically, the great majority just don't think the dues are worth it if a bankrupt contract is extended without relief. The IAM did well to avoid an election last year, they will also do well if they support justice in these negotiations.
regards,
The IAM were in Philly several weeks ago and AGCs Shifano and Giamarco being there. Where Shifano stated that the Article 3 money ( snap back money) issue is in arbitration and will hopefully be heard in Feb. 2007 . But if we give the money up now , USAirways will bring people back to work. This was confirmed by the Local President in Pittsburgh, John Coveny. But guess what???? All of the IAM officals are denying this now for it was not to be leaked out yet. Why is the IAM so quiet now since they won repreasentation. The following is some of their statements: If we are the surviving Union you will see additional S checks with 500-800 employees coming back, you will be making more money with the snap back and profit sharing we will get you and with the transition agreement we will negotiated increase wages,better benefits and the IAM retirement package. Why all the promises and no results? Is there any HOPE to the future with USAirways as an employee with the IAM representing me. People just want the IAM to represent the Union member and not be the Company Union that so many members believe them to be. Please dispell what the IAM letters stand for - I'll Ask Management. The final question is : What were the true results of the International Officals election ; especially the AGCs who represent the rankin file on USAirways property ? For many have heard that they loss the vote on Usairways property but won it after the Continental and Southwest vote. Why did it take over 3 weeks to hear the results? Can anyone answer these questions? :down: :down: :down: :down: :down: :down: :down: :down: :down:
Tim Nelson
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barbeetantrums
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A word to the wise among west fleet.
1. You ain't a mechanic.
2. You ain't from the twin meccas, PIT or PHL.
Take a good look at what happened to East fleet, that wasn't a mech or from PHL/PIT, either.
They got hosed.
Get the picture?
PHX and LAX will survive, but don't expect any $$$. Take a look at what the East hubs are getting, and that's pretty close to what you'll wind up with.
For the other west stations, BOHICA.
It was planned before you even knew there was a merger. The IAM brass knew, because they had a BOD member.
1. You ain't a mechanic.
2. You ain't from the twin meccas, PIT or PHL.
Take a good look at what happened to East fleet, that wasn't a mech or from PHL/PIT, either.
They got hosed.
Get the picture?
PHX and LAX will survive, but don't expect any $$$. Take a look at what the East hubs are getting, and that's pretty close to what you'll wind up with.
For the other west stations, BOHICA.
It was planned before you even knew there was a merger. The IAM brass knew, because they had a BOD member.
barbeetantrums
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A word to the wise among west fleet.
1. You ain't a mechanic.
2. You ain't from the twin meccas, PIT or PHL.
Take a good look at what happened to East fleet, that wasn't a mech or from PHL/PIT, either.
They got hosed.
Get the picture?
PHX and LAX will survive, but don't expect any $$$. Take a look at what the East hubs are getting, and that's pretty close to what you'll wind up with.
For the other west stations, BOHICA.
It was planned before you even knew there was a merger. The IAM brass knew, because they had a BOD member.
We knew this all along, so we can do without the condescending lecture.
With all due respect, responding to the initial post.
As did you.
"You act like something positive was supposed to happen."
You said it shorter, I said it longer.
So?
barbeetantrums
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Are you directing your comments to anyone in general or are you just babbling?
roadtrip
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Dude sorry to hear your pain. Welcome to the world of the IAM or should you say MIA. Bottom line is this
WE TOLD YOU SO!
