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Voted in and promoted through democratic process by his own peers who must have felt hes done right over the years or they would have told him not run also?
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Voted in and promoted through democratic process by his own peers who must have felt hes done right over the years or they would have told him not run also?
You mean the people with brains and education the attributes that are alien to union hacks.
You are always educating us all, so just what are you credentials 700 besides Lav truck expert? What? MS is urinary functions, or stationary engineering, the degrees of choice granted union hacks given by the secretary general IAM international? What 700 is exactly your level of education? It must be high given all your posts of wisdom.
The more you post the more your colors shine, and right now you’re brilliance is shadowing out sun.
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I have spent more years with a wrench in my hand and actively serving my union brothers and sisters than being in management. Once I discovered that you can not fight an employer with questionable tactics while at the same time fighting a corrupt union I decided if you can't beat 'em then join 'em. It was one of the best decisions of my life. I am flourishing out on my on with extremely high results. I completed another degree and my future looks very bright and prosperous. Thanks to my employees, my organization has record high numbers and I will continue to prosper. Remember what Piney Bob and others have said about when you are in tough times you must change and maybe reinvent yourself. I am so glad I have nothing to do with the IAM any longer. Don't be their fool any longer. Go and do what is right for you and your family.
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When you are at a loss and cornered like a trapped animal you hiss, a hissy fit.
When you were thrown off these boards, many times, you almost needed mental healthcare to get thru the days. Your life has come down to doing what you believe is winning on these boards, but sadly for you they count for nothing whatsoever other than what’s in your twisted psyche.
Continue to play the fool, it's your life not mine, Thank God.
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Dude,
Go seek some help, you do not know me, never met me nor ever talked to me.
As for being thrown off the boards, you should know all about that, shall we ask ITRADE about the death threats you sent him?
How about those ten commandments?
Like I said, this topic is about the IAM Open House, I will only reply to you on this topic about that, you can do what you want, but I suggest you get some help.
Here are your own words and as the whole boards sees your words mean nothing!
Go seek some help, you do not know me, never met me nor ever talked to me.
As for being thrown off the boards, you should know all about that, shall we ask ITRADE about the death threats you sent him?
How about those ten commandments?
Like I said, this topic is about the IAM Open House, I will only reply to you on this topic about that, you can do what you want, but I suggest you get some help.
Here are your own words and as the whole boards sees your words mean nothing!
700 & DellDude,Yes....
Voted in and promoted through democratic process by his own peers who must have felt hes done right over the years or they would have told him not run also?
I find your conversation very interesting.
What I find SAD is that NOTHING [that I can see] has been done to keep situations like this from happening AGAIN !
There is NO excuse why members in one city are treated differently than other cities !! :down: This is one of the PRIMARY reasons I signed a Teamster Card !!
Dell, I was also involved in this FORCE MANURE mess..
Let me tell you, It was NO fun to get on this very website after being furloughed out of seniority, and read that my "union brothers" in PIT were being called back to work, wondering WTF was going on in CLT !
I do not have enough INSIDE information to determine which local was wrong or right, But one thing is for sure, A DECISION should of been made [ONE WAY OR ANOTHER]and that decision should of been applied THE SAME WAY to BOTH cities ! I don't think that is too much to ask from a union..
Dell, I have to take issue with you as to how IAM officals [AGC's] are elected.
I'm sure you know as well as I that AGC's are elected NOT ONLY by the Union members they Represent, But ALSO elected by IAM members from OTHER airlines !
I do not find this way of electing IAM officals being "Democratic".
This HAS to be changed! IAM officals should be elected ONLY by members they REPRESENT, [NOT BY UNION MEMBERS THAT WORK FOR OTHER AIRLINES THAT DO NOT KNOW THEM FROM ADAM !!]
I have not seen the offical results of the last election, But according to those that have, Bill and Frank were voted OUT by members in CLT.
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You have to change the district bylaws in order to change how the GCs are elected.
But you also vote on other airline's GCs too, so it works both ways, as on the West Coast some other GC not a US Airways' one will handle the grievances and such.
But you also vote on other airline's GCs too, so it works both ways, as on the West Coast some other GC not a US Airways' one will handle the grievances and such.
700,
I am well aware about the need to change the District Bylaws,
That is why I was willing to CHANGE unions..Do you agree this situation needs to be changed ?
I am also aware that I vote on other airlines officials, I DON'T HAVE ANY BUSINESS VOTING FOR THEIR OFFICIALS. I do not know anything about other airline members officials and issues.
I guarantee the union membership that voted in Frank in PIT was most likely under 150 voting.
The members from other airlines...well I remember voting for some dude from Hawaii who I knew jack about but he had a cool name.
Just like when you got to the polls here and some quack smack is on the ballot in some position you never heard or knew about....guess you pull the lever?
is it right? BTSOOM.....Thats the way they been going it for some time.
As far as what went on in PIT vs our good friends in CLT...was it right or wrong?? I see it as a reaction against a company violating the CBA and Frank and Bill meeting that wrong with wildcat threat that probably was doable.
CLT moaned about secret phone calls and such....maybe CLT shoulda been up and running too...don't know...don't really care anymore...its history .
After all CLT usually was very staunch in unionistic actions during contract neg's...why they seemed to cave against this affront...I don't know.its over....for me at least.
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This is not an appropriate way to vote on district folks. Some member needs to investigate how to present an agenda item to change the bylaws on the International level. You have to know who are the voting leaders who vote on these new agenda items.
The current way does not appear that it is very fair or democratic. ALPA and AFA do not vote for their representatives in this manner. The respective airline representatives are elected by their members in their specific base, therefore, how well you serve your members has a direct impact on your reelection, or demise.
We also have within our Constitution (both ALPA and AFA identical) to "RECALL" an officer from the local level all the way up to the International.
This type of "direct election" makes our leaders accountable for their representation.
Otherwise, I seen no incentive for the leaders at the IAM to represent their members fairlyl
