IAM Open House

[Workingman]

First of all Fed Ex Mechanics were non-union.

Second, EAL the IAM went on strike against the tyrant Lorenzo, all other unions ALPA and TWU followed, it was the greatest showing of labor in years, it forced and banned Lorenzo out of the industry.

Third, The issue went to arbitration, Arbiter Kasher made the ruling, that is the process you had to follow, the TWU screwed the former TWA employees not the IAM.

Fourth, The IAM was not the certified bargaining rep of the AA employees they could not do anything legally.

Don't let the facts get in your way.

First of all FTL mechanics were IAM and they gave away a bunch to FEDX.

Oh yes STRIKE STRIKE STRIKE and lose everything! And Lorenzo did die. He just resurrected elsewhere.

Third, when the St. Louis mechanics bumped around the system they went where they wanted not to where the lowest guy was. They were still 2 carriers and arbitration had nothing to do with it.

Fourth, when the TWA mechanics were laid off, because the St. Louis mechanics bumped them out, they were all IAM. The TWU became the bargaining rep on 4/29/02 and until that date they were under IAM. The lay offs took place in 2001.

Don't let the facts get in your way.

 

[700UW]

Gave away a bunch to Fedex?

FedEx bought Tigers, FedEx was non-union and they outnumbered the Tigers.

Lorenzo was banned from the industry, he has tried several times to get back in the DOT and DOJ has banned him, he was not and has not been resurected in the industry.

A strike was the last step but necessary to stop Lorenzo, every union at EAL went on strike, not just the IAM.

Layoffs and bumping are done by the CBA, which you failed to realize was a CBA done while TW was in Chapter 11 and AA forced the changes upon TW otherwise TW would have ceased to exsist, and by the way the IAM represented employees ratified the CBA that AA forced upon them

Like I said, don't let the facts get in your way.

 

[BeenThereDoneThat]

Workingman and 700UW: At this stage of the game, IMO, most of the people reading your posts are not interested in your personal arguments. Try keeping on the subject at hand, which is communication, not putting up more barriers. People can be informed of past actions without the finger pointing, name calling and other BS. This is a printed forum. You can only print and read; any insults perceived are only what you make of what you read from a one dimensional media format.


All the US(West) cares about is how and what the IAM has to say and when things will affect us. We will make our own decisions on whether the information is good, bad, lies or believeable. We have our reservations because of (1) what we have heard, (2) what former members have said, and (3) what we have read. We are going to be open minded, but not gullible.

While 700 always posts: Don't let the facts get in your way. He must remember that we do not always possess ALL the facts, and there is a vast difference between experience (real or perceived) and factual information. Just because it is printed in this forum doesn't mean it is accepted as a fact.

That is my 2 cents worth. If the shoe fits, wear it; if not, then who cares?

 

[Dog Wonder]

1) The Flying Tigers mechanics lost so much when merged with FedX the IAM did nothing.

Flying Tigers, I am having a flashback!

 

[1lcc]

I have talked to Tom Regan, He will work on the meeting schedule in PHX, try to extend the times.

 

[BrutallyHonest]

I have talked to Tom Regan, He will work on the meeting schedule in PHX, try to extend the times.

Tommy is a straight shooter, very knowledgable and a fine IAM rep.

 

[insp89]

Tommy is a straight shooter, very knowledgable and a fine IAM rep.

BrutallyHonest,
Next time you talk to "straight shooter" Tommy, ask him if he is proud of the way he handled the FORCE MAJEUR issue right after 911 in CLT..

Are you aware of the decision that held mechanics out of work in CLT for weeks ?, while mechanics in PIT were called back to work within DAYS ??

Seems the IAM consists of [2] unions...IAM North, and IAM South.

 

[700UW]

The FM disaster was caused by Frank and Bill.

Frank and Bill took it upon themselved to violate the contract and layoff mechs and call mechs back.

They disregarded seniority and assigned senior guys laid-off to third shift heavy when they were shop mechanics.

Tony and Tommy strickly adhered to the CBA and would not devate from it.

The whole problem was caused by a VP who paniced, I cant remember his name, but he was over the Engine and some Component Shops and had no clue on what to do.

I for one would prefer the CBA adhered to then two renegade reps take it upon themselves to violate the CBA they took an oath to protect.

And at the time of 9/11 Tommy was not assigned to CLT but would assist Tony.

 

[insp89]

The FM disaster was caused by Frank and Bill.

Frank and Bill took it upon themselved to violate the contract and layoff mechs and call mechs back.

They disregarded seniority and assigned senior guys laid-off to third shift heavy when they were shop mechanics.

Tony and Tommy strickly adhered to the CBA and would not devate from it.

The whole problem was caused by a VP who paniced, I cant remember his name, but he was over the Engine and some Component Shops and had no clue on what to do.

I for one would prefer the CBA adhered to then two renegade reps take it upon themselves to violate the CBA they took an oath to protect.

And at the time of 9/11 Tommy was not assigned to CLT but would assist Tony.

700uw,
I for one would prefer to be represented FAIRLY and the SAME, [NO MATTER WHAT CITY I WORK IN]...

Bob LeBeau is the VP that made the pathetic decision to lay mechanics off out of seniority..

No doubt that Frank and Bill were involved in this mess, The question is, Why are they still working for the IAM ??? :down:

I had a nice little conversation with Tommy over the phone when this mess was happening, Tommy was doing more than "Assisting". :down:

 

[700UW]

Frank and Bill did it all themselves.

Well they are part of the boys boys club, and you know how hard it is to break that up.

Tom and Tony are both stand up guys, cant say the same for Bill and Frank.

I had many battles with Bill during the negotiations and OD had to get in between us on more then one occassion.

 

[insp89]

Frank and Bill did it all themselves.

If that is the case, [it is NOT by the way]WHY ARE THEY STILL EMPLOYEED BY THE IAM AFTER THEY VIOLATED THEIR OWN CONTRACT ??? :down:

 

[MOC A320]

Frank and Bill did it all themselves.

Well they are part of the boys boys club, and you know how hard it is to break that up.

Tom and Tony are both stand up guys, cant say the same for Bill and Frank.

I had many battles with Bill during the negotiations and OD had to get in between us on more then one occassion.

Is the IAM going to send out letters (for the meetings) to all the class and crafts that where not covered under the agreement on the west. They don't have a real means to keep informed, without union reps or bulletin boards.

 

[700UW]

Ask the membership who did nothing about it to why they are still there.

Those west members are invited to attend the meetings.

 

[insp89]

Ask the membership who did nothing about it to why they are still there.

Those west members are invited to attend the meetings.

700uw,
You know as well as I that it is more than the "membership" that is the problem.

The way the IAM elects their Officers is one of the main reasons you cannot vote out self-serving Officers.

Instead of ONLY members from the airline that the Officers Represent, IAM members from OTHER airlines that are also represented by the IAM, vote for Usair IAM officers.

For example, The last election that was held a couple of months ago, I not only voted for IAM officers to represent USAIR members, I ALSO voted for Officers FOR OTHER AIRLINES represented by the IAM..

I have NO business voting for another airlines IAM officers !!

And they have NO business voting for Usair IAM Officers !!

What this "voting arrangement" does, is make it virtually impossible to vote out incumbent officers..

The problem here is NOT the membership, It's the crooked voting procedures designed to keep incumbent officers in place against the memberships wishes.

 

[smorzando]

700uw,


The problem here is NOT the membership, It's the crooked voting procedures designed to keep incumbent officers in place against the memberships wishes.

700 is part of the problem hence a waste of time, energy and any effort even reading his IAM pointless nonsense. It’s like asking Satan if he would consider becoming Born Again.