I Predict Usairways Liquidation This Feb.

[Reservation Agent]

The airline business is a service business...The customer needs good service to be a repeat customer...There are too many airlines that can offer the same seat from here to there....The difference is good customer service....

Ya don't mess with employee paychecks... after they have given, and given and given.......You should realize it is not the employees fault... the airline is a failure....

Could it be the way it is run?....Oh heaven forbid...

You are not gonna make the airline profitable, by putting it on the backs of the already weary employees....

USAIRWAYS gone in February....


Merry Christmas!

 

[mrfish3726]

I worked at UAL RA and realized watching TV on 9/11 that UAL was doomed. USAIR is now on life support, only the employees can save it apperantly. The same will transpire at UniTED in the VERY NEAR FUTURE! :unsure:

 

[usjacket]

I agree, I also believe they have no plan to save this airline but have figured out how much money they need to take from employees to bailout with their Alabama money intact! After the money from Thankgiving and Christmas travel comes in they will probally bail!

 

[MCORORES]

usjacket...I beg to differ. They do have a plan and you hit the nail on the head about Bama $. Like I have posted b4, good management looks beyond the problem. Good management envisions the situation instead of reacting to the problem. This class of management has no vision at all. OTOH if managements guess does buy the airline time it will be because of the sacrifices made LABOR!!!! Not because of their "plan". And oh by the way what is in it for labor....your job. You get to keep it but at what price TBA at a later date.

 

[oldiebutgoody]

Personally, I think it will be WAY be before February. Either that, or ot will be sold in chunks once the pilots vote away their fragmentation and scope protection. Then, MAA will be sold to MESA. UAIRQ is HISTORY!

 

[cavalier]

Personally, I think it will be WAY be before February. Either that, or ot will be sold in chunks once the pilots vote away their fragmentation and scope protection. Then, MAA will be sold to MESA. UAIRQ is HISTORY!

[post="192070"][/post]​

You're the hopeless optimist

I remember a talk show host say Christopher Reeve will not live long after his accident, then ten years later he did pass. Opinions are just that, mine is, I have no clue.

 

[Retired1]

Personally, I think it will be WAY be before February. Either that, or ot will be sold in chunks once the pilots vote away their fragmentation and scope protection. Then, MAA will be sold to MESA. UAIRQ is HISTORY!

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[Retired1]

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Oldie
What is your gut feeling on whether the pilot contract will pass or not?

 

[FA Mikey]

Personally, I think it will be WAY be before February. Either that, or ot will be sold in chunks once the pilots vote away their fragmentation and scope protection. Then, MAA will be sold to MESA. UAIRQ is HISTORY!

[post="192070"][/post]​

Your prediction seems right on. Why did they have to break the fragmantation rule? Why are they making such a issue of press releases pinned to a BB, they claim are tied to something from 2 years ago? There just seems to much effort towards trying to claim there is no break up sale in the works.

 

[USA320Pilot]

I disagree.

Prior to the recent spike in energy prices the company’s business plan projected with $800 million in labor cost cuts the company would break even in 2005 or maybe post a slight profit. David Bronner has publicly hinted that if this happens, he was interested in providing exit financing. In my opinion, this could lead to the company becoming privately held.

This plan was based on oil prices of about $44 per barrel. Today oil prices are near $55 per barrel, and the $11 per barrel increase raises the company’s annual jet fuel costs about $250 million.

The purpose of the immediate employee cost cuts was to buy the airline time to implement operational changes such as training consolidation, IT implementation, lower distribution costs, a new website, the FLL strategy, PHL rolling hub, two more CLT banks, DCA point-to-point, affiliate carrier RJ expansion, GoFares, more transatlantic service, etc. These moves take time and are more like a “marathonâ€￾ where cash flow relief is a “sprintâ€￾.

Separately, expect some interesting management changes in the not-to-distant future.

Regards,

USA320Pilot

 

[Borescope]

You're the hopeless optimist

I remember a talk show host say Christopher Reeve will not live long after his accident, then ten years later he did pass. Opinions are just that, mine is, I have no clue.

[post="192077"][/post]​

So, what are you saying? Your going to limp along and let the employees bleed for the next 10 years like Pan Am and then call it quits?

 

[Borescope]

David Bronner has publicly hinted that if this happens, he was interested in providing exit financing.

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The key here is "Hinted". Don't companies do this "hinting" all the time when they want to make someone or a specific group think that they are going in the right direction. Bronner has a lot of money tied up and even though he says it's less than 1 percent of his portfoilo, it would still put a big black mark on his resume. If he can make the lenders think he is on the right track, then he might buy some time to recoup some of his investment.

 

[Peeky]

Separately, expect some interesting management changes in the not-to-distant future.

Regards,

USA320Pilot


And lose all this cracker jack talent?

 

[cavalier]

So, what are you saying? Your going to limp along and let the employees bleed for the next 10 years like Pan Am and then call it quits?

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That statement makes it sound like I have the power to let "anyone" limb along...

You sound bitter, maybe you should do what I did months ago, leave....

Inspectors always were a little different, and hated to be bothered, especially the younger ones who feel U is personally screwing them, and they can’t do anything about it…

Like Sam Kinison screaming about world hungry to the Ethiopians…M_O_V_E====== on and away from U

 

[oldiebutgoody]

Oldie
What is your gut feeling on whether the pilot contract will pass or not?

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My guess is that it will probably pass, but not by a very large margin. There are enough senior folks with absolutely no job prospects that don't mind ruining the entire airline industry as a career just to get themselves a retirement in a year or two. I feel that the conditions presented by the T/A present an absolutely unworkable job for the next 5+ years, and if I were in it I would be fervently searching for more career options. The sad part is that if this T/A passes, it is the beginning of the whirlpool of ever decreasing pay and benefits in the aviation industry. There will be NO good jobs anywhere, except for a few well managed companies that understand the value of happy employees. As the day approaches for the vote count I am noticing more and more rhetoric from the company and the ALPA forces pushing for the T/A, indicating that it is probably in trouble. That is why I think that it will be a very close count.