How Does Us Close The Doors?

[EightySix]

Assuming what everyone thinks will happen, and what management keeps threatening, how does USAirways proceed to shut down? Is there some double secret committee out there that has the steps in place? Are we going to strand thousands of passengers this holiday season?
Just curious on how a business as large as ours just "closes the doors". Will we just come into work and not be able to get in? If we liquidate, how long does that take?

 

[cavalier]

Assuming what everyone thinks will happen, and what management keeps threatening, how does USAirways proceed to shut down? Is there some double secret committee out there that has the steps in place? Are we going to strand thousands of passengers this holiday season?
Just curious on how a business as large as ours just "closes the doors". Will we just come into work and not be able to get in? If we liquidate, how long does that take?

[post="168706"][/post]​

Short of planes falling out of the sky, it's pretty must over instantly. Look to Pam Am, their F/A's had to get lifts from sympathetic carries. It happened to of friend of mine, she was stuck in Fl and U rode her home, talk about full circle

 

[Bear96]

I would imagine the plans for a shutdown are pretty well drafted and sitting in a file on someone's desk at CCY, just waiting for the word.

And I imagine it would be like you say-- IF they decide (or are forced) to go that route-- people show up for work one morning and passengers show up at ticket counters, only to find everything locked and dark. I would think there will be no advance warning because one of the goals is to have as much cash on hand as possible, and if they give any type of warning people will immediately stop booking.

 

[delldude]

I would imagine the plans for a shutdown are pretty well drafted and sitting in a file on someone's desk at CCY, just waiting for the word.

And I imagine it would be like you say-- IF they decide (or are forced) to go that route-- people show up for work one morning and passengers show up at ticket counters, only to find everything locked and dark.

I would think there will be no advance warning because one of the goals is to have as much cash on hand as possible, and if they give any type of warning people will immediately stop booking.

[post="168731"][/post]​

I would think there will be no advance warning because one of the goals is to have as much cash on hand as possible, and if they give any type of warning people will immediately stop booking.

you haven't been listening to bronner and/or lakefield have you?
if anything...i think they are accelerating the obvious by their media comments.

 

[colorado_cowboy]

Im not sure this is exactly how it would work but it seems to me that if your in the middle of your shift and they shut down you'd be allowed to get your personal belongings and you'd be escorted off the property.

If you show up for work you would be greeted by security and you would be escorted to your locker and you'd get your belongings and then you'd be escorted off the property.

Perhaps if someone from Tampa reads this thread they can tell us EXACTLY what would happen should the company close the doors. They lived the nightmare they know exactly what were about to go thru.

Another thing you should think about, if the company closes the doors you will lose all unused vacation and sick time that you have built up and its more than likely that because U is a week behind in their payroll you'll more than likely will have worked that last week of work for free beings their wont be a company around to pay you.

 

[Harry Callahan]

I have been there at another airline & was working the day it happened. The manager walked on to the floor asked for our attention & told us as of such & such time ..............has filed for bankrupcy & you are all terminated, clean out your lockers & leave.
We were all dumbfounded no one had clear heads. We cried & whatever. Then that night alot of us went out to party. And life goes on. We found other jobs just like the employees of U will.

 

[Bear96]

[post="168731"][/post]​

you haven't been listening to bronner and/or lakefield have you?
if anything...i think they are accelerating the obvious by their media comments.

[post="168735"][/post]​

Correct me if I am wrong but they are currently babbling on now about another Ch.11 filing, not outright cessation of operations-- two very different animals. While they are no doubt scaring some business away (but probably not any more than the "The concession stand is closed" crowd), it is nothing to what would happen to bookings if a member of senior management said, "We will be ceasing operations copmletely at some point in the next few weeks," with the implication of "and good luck trying to get any money refunded if you are caught with the short end of the stick."

 

[A Baby Ate My Dingo]

Braniff's Final Hours

 

[cavalier]

Another thing you should think about, if the company closes the doors you will lose all unused vacation and sick time that you have built up and its more than likely that because U is a week behind in their payroll you'll more than likely will have worked that last week of work for free beings their wont be a company around to pay you.

[post="168749"][/post]​

TRUE. A co-worker who is an expert in these matters and a friend of mine has worked for TWA, Pam Am and Braniff, he was even a pilot for a time. When at Braniff he worked an entire month of overtime and they kept telling him, "wait till next week and we will pay you" only to have happen to him exactly what was stated here: He came to work and was allowed to get his personal belongings and escorted off the property never to receive a dime of that months worth of overtime or straight pay. The employees are at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to getting their due. Also: On a lockout it sometimes take a long time to actually get your personal belongings and why all my major and heavy items are already off the property along with like minded mechanics.

 

[cavalier]

Braniff's Final Hours

[post="168769"][/post]​

I LOVE this, a must read for people who feel hopeless and believe U is their life blood!

From that article when told the airline was finished and so was this F/A's job she stated:

"Is that all? I can get another job - I thought you were going to tell me that you were putting this big son of a #### in the water!"

 

[hp_fa]

In this day and age, before I agreed to "work" the HNL-DFW flight I would likely make sure I was going to get paid for that leg. Otherwise it would be ferry to DFW time.

U's management is not as well liked as Braniff's management was.

 

[28yrsnojob]

:down: Doest matter to me anymore they got me for 80000.00 18months ago
If any of you out there have sick or vacation pay coming take it now dont wait another day because they will take all the money from the top and labor will be left holding its hand on its a$$.

 

[Trin03]

Correct me if I am wrong but they are currently babbling on now about another Ch.11 filing, not outright cessation of operations-- two very different animals. "

[post="168767"][/post]​

True Bear........ But would a thief in the night bother to ring your doorbell and wake you up before robbing you?

 

[Bear96]

True Bear........ But would a thief in the night bother to ring your doorbell and wake you up before robbing you?

[post="168824"][/post]​

Umm... no... that's my point: They won't bother giving anyone much warning before shutting the doors.

 

[jimntx]

Umm... no... that's my point: They won't bother giving anyone much warning before shutting the doors.

[post="168826"][/post]​

No, but they might drag a red herring across the trail to make you think that they were trying to save the airline via Ch. 11.