Flight Attendants!

[flygirl74]

Working by the rules does not make anyone an idiot, we see your maturity level by using insults.

Those are the company's rules and you can be disciplined for not following them and the company and the union BOTH agreed to the CBA, so there is nothing wrong with an employee going by what it states.

Also, if you happen to fly with a recently recalled f/a please update them on what's going on in the company. These people are not up to speed on the current tactics, amended contract, side letters, etc. They should carry their contract (as should everyone) and reference it.
The best one scheduling uses is when they assign you a trip then say "we can't release you, we are short". Section 11-11 states that UNLESS the Director of Crew scheduling or a minion has determined it a Irregular Ops... So being short is their problem not yours.

 

[Art at ISP]

700,

To your point, in another day and age you'd be right. However, this management is already losing revenue--long time customers like me are leaving (or already gone), and first time Kettles would never come back. The pool of customers who have yet to fly US is finite, and will eventually run out.

They are already driving customers away with the current state of the operation.

Do what you have to do, and I sincerely wish you all the luck in the world, but this group isn't coming back to the table any time soon in my opinion.

 

[AstroLounge]

As USUAL EMBFA, very good post. Of course the koolaid drinkers are gagging thinking "How dare She!". FOLLOW THE CONTRACT, nothing More nothing Less.

 

[JS]

Good, hopefully this will speed the demise of US Airways and free up congested air space for better airlines.

I had to do a similar thing in a job many years ago where they didn't pay overtime. It was legal (just as what US management is doing is legal), but underhanded and terrible for morale. However, with no union, they fired me. But I got the last word, because the property was sold to new management.

 

[2clippedwings]

The results of doing our jobs (remember, we DO love our jobs when given the proper tools to do them) BY THE BOOK is going to make our unfortunate passengers unhappy.

AGAIN, D.O.T. D.O.T. D.O.T.

When the results are published in the media after passengers complain to the D.O.T., eventually the company will have to make positive changes that benefit the employees AND our passengers.

 

[BajaBabe]

Great responses I love all your ideas. Let's go and take back the Castle they have tried to put us in the Dumps of Depression.

Recently there have been 3 known incidents were flight attendants have beeen offered 5 hours to violate your contract on the International segments.....................Please follow Nancy Reagan............................NO!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[safety stud]

I can't stand flying with idiots like you. Just leave the industry please. You do have a choice. You union folks are complete idiots, once again.

marco,

It is unfortunate that you don't understand the ramifications for which you were hired. The company sent you to initial training, and re-trains you every year at recurrent. These are the same guidelines the company hired and trained you to do. Not following them sets YOU, not the other guy into getting in trouble. Therefore, when you do get caught not doing them, and you go the the same union you are calling idiots to protect your job, you will be thankful they are there.

You see, marco, it's people like you that think they have a better way of doing things that are the problem. Maybe it's you who should re-consider leaving the industry and let those of us who follow procedures to enjoy a safer working condition.

Just my opinion...

 

[N965VJ]

<SNIP> All it will do is drive more customers away.

Exactly.

Perhaps at the very least Tempe will pull their collective noses out of the Merger Playbook and at least start addressing some of the operational issues, and I don’t mean little focus groups with employees.

No offense to anybody here that participated in the recent FA focus groups, but isn’t there an already well-established FFOCUS group waiting to be heard?

 

[songbirdstew]

Also ..do not belittle and disrespect the schedulers. Yes, I know that schedulers can often be rude for no reason ..but we also know that crew members are often rude to schedulers for no reason as well. Knowing your contract is also important for not giving schedulers crap when they assign something to you that IS legal.

Don't forget 30 hard time company hours in 7 days......We CANNOT be made to fly over 30 "company" flight time hours in a 7 day period but CAN go past at OUR option. Recently 2 F/As told me a certain scheduling sup. told them that portion of the contract has been deleted due to 24 (NFL or 25+15 RON) off in 7 days....she was wrong!
Those are two separate things and just because you had an NFL day off, it doesn't get rid of that part of the contract. Do keep in mind though that ETB trips do not count towards your 30 "company" flight hours---those are your hours.....
Bottom line, if you fly a 25 hour hard "company" time 4 day on days 1-4 and they try to assign you a 10 hour 2 day on days 6-7, you can ask to be split to not go over .....
With them calling RSVs out as soon as we get our uniforms washed, that's very important to remember.
Whoever said it here is right---KNOW YOUR CONTRACT and your union reps phone numbers...it's getting to the point that we need them on speed dial.

 

[Twicebaked]

Have they done this? OMG!

Yes they have....to a friend of mine. Made her go to the "local" bar to call off personal. They didn't believe she was in base.

 

[OldGuyinPA]

Everybody needs to remember..this is Dougweiser's mess. He made it this way. He needs to be held accountable. I didn't make this mess .... deal with it Doug. I'm done with it.....

It must be 5:00 somewhere...Jimmy Buffet...

 

[Art at ISP]

Exactly.

Perhaps at the very least Tempe will pull their collective noses out of the Merger Playbook and at least start addressing some of the operational issues, and I don’t mean little focus groups with employees.

No offense to anybody here that participated in the recent FA focus groups, but isn’t there an already well-established FFOCUS group waiting to be heard?

N965VJ,

My point was that they are already losing customers at a record pace, so the point of such an action may be moot. They know customers are leaving already--see their response to fix things? NONE.

And you are correct, there is a well established FFOCUS group waiting to be heard, but to date, we have not received any requests. I did mention to them that we would like to talk to the hired consultants, but I guess they didn't want them to hear what we had to say.

Trust me we won't be silent for much longer........

I wish we could do more to help you guys and gals.....

 

[CO738]

I have a number of friends who work as US/West F/As....Some lessons from their horror stories:

Let's not forget:

*If your trip gets canceled, and you leave the airport, and on the way HOME scheduling calls and you tells you to turn around and fly a NEW trip, you have 90 minutes for call out. The clock didn't start ticking on the NEW trip when they called you the first time for the OLD trip


*Dead-heading to LAS for a stand up flight to IAD does not mean your per-deim hours start when you step onto the plane at IAD for your IAD - LAS segment the next day.


*It's not ok for the company to accidentally over-charge you for your required luggage. They made you buy it, the most you should be willing to do is pay for it once, let alone twice. And no, you don't have to visit payroll in person to correct the error.

 

[Dog Wonder]

Thank you for reminding me. Specials such as disabled, hearing/vision impaired, UMs require INDIVIDUAL and detailed briefings. accomplish these before allowing anyone else to board- after all, with minimum staffing, if you are with a UM, who is at your required duty station for boarding?

They ae not 'Specials'. They are customers.

 

[CO738]

They ae not 'Specials'. They are customers.

For today's special, we have a blind man who needs help down the aisle with his service dog. We also have a hearing impaired woman who has been seated in the emergency exit row. And our final special for tonight's flight is a man in a wheelchair who needs to make a connection to Baltimore. Thank you for flying with us.