Flight Attendant Cleaning Station Update

[USA320Pilot]

700UW:

Does it make you feel big to call people names? My 7 and 9-year old children do not do that becuase they understand respect.

With all due respect, your account of what happend at high levels of the IAM is inaccurate. We have been over-and-over this and I'm not going to waste bandwidth explaining it again, but the IAM gave much more than the initial "ask" and badly hurt their members.

That's history now, thus, good luck with your future.

Best regards,

USA320Pilot

 

[700UW]

Did you perform work covered under the IAM's Mechanic and Related Contract?

How am I wrong?

I was there, but I guess you can't figure that out and I know Robert Roach, Bill O'Driscoll did not sit you down and tell you exactly what happened.

My future is still with US Airways.

With every post you sink to even lower depths.

Can your 7 and 9 year old admit when they are wrong?

I know my 8 year old does.

And EVERY Group including yours gave more then the initial ask. And I had my pension 2 years longer then you did, and you had never even had a choice in losing it.

 

[usairways_vote_NO]

That's what you refuse to understand, but the facts are the IAM gave the greatest amount of a concession and had the greatest percentage "give" over the "ask". In my opinion, you and your union miserably failed, however, that was your choice. As I said early on, the IAM was not going to cut a deal and they made the utility workers expendable

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I say: Why are you so hell bent in wallowing about in another unions pain? Do you like it? You say you don't but you sure delight in posting it.

You say: Separately, US Airways is a customer service company and one of the things that sets companies like jetBlue Airways apart is that they’re a team. For example, I understand the company puts non-revs in the back of the plane and they help clean as they deplane. That’s called caring about your company and teamwork, not this self righteous union attitude some of our more frequent posters display.

I say: If you like the way companies like Jetblue are run why not take your own advice and quit USAirways and join them?

You say: Will I help our customers and give them the best service possible? Absolutely, that’s my job and I will do it to the best of my ability, versus a slow down, which gives a company more reason to replace unproductive people.

I say: Who are you to say anyone is on a slowdown and even if a few were what gives you the right to take it out on the whole group by doing their job? Since when does ALPA your contract and bylaws support wildcats doing the job of other unions? So does that mean when the pilots get a stick you know where and decide to writeup an aircraft unnecessarily that other unions should get a pilot in there to do the job they are paid to do?

 

[ClueByFour]

Nobody wants to throw anybody "under the bus", its about cost effectively performing work.

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Then you won't object to outsourcing narrowbody Airbus flying to Mesa when the company returns for more, correct? They are able, willing, waiting, and can certainly do it in a more "cost effective" manner than your workgroup.

Ryan could do it today. What's the holdup?

Ask the 1800 guys on the APL about getting "thrown under the bus."

Spin, spin, spin. Keep that seat at all costs.

As an aside, as a customer I can tell you that since contract cleaning has become more prevelant, the planes have looked like dog excrement. Take a look at numerous threads on Flyertalk--I'm not alone. The planes are not as clean as the LCCs that you and CCY like to compare costs with. It's telling.

 

[scot]

The discussion in THIS thread is about F/A contract and airplane cleaning. Take the personal/IAM matters to PM AGAIN!

 

[workngd]

700...they want catering to throw the trash to the ramp and then the rampers will pick it up. Thank you so much for sticking up for this workgroup as they don't deserve how they are being treated by this company. They have even resorted to trying to fire them for any reason they can find. Again 700 ,you are right not 320.

320....you need to stay in the cockpit and let us do our jobs. If you are so smart, why aren't you running this company? Probally because we would all quit with your Hitler attitude. :down:

 

[700UW]

Actually in CLT it is against Regulations to throw trash on the ramp, and if it is International, that is a whole differant set of regulations.

 

[midnight cowboy]

Call came in from the company tower this morning in PIT,
"flight #xxx on final for gate #xx, 14 yr old girl violently puking, please notify utility"
Who gets to handle this one? Hey usa320 pilot, want to help out? Come on show the old team spirt! Pitch in sparky! Suit up your going in!

 

[mweiss]

Since when do you violate the contract of other unionized workers.

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How can you be proud and boast about doing work that is not yours?

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These two comments pretty much encompass the element of unions that bother me the most.

 

[SilentWarrior]

These two comments pretty much encompass the element of unions that bother me the most.

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That pretty much nails it.

 

[700UW]

If the Company does not have a problem with it, then why should anyone else?

It takes both sides to agree to workrules and etc.

 

[usfliboi]

poor 700... i ask people to prey for him

 

[PITbull]

These two comments pretty much encompass the element of unions that bother me the most.

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Tuff beans!!!!

Hit ignore...and move on.

 

[EyeInTheSky]

700UW:

Does it make you feel big to call people names? My 7 and 9-year old children do not do that becuase they understand respect.

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Aw that's nice. Perhaps they can teach you what 'under the radar means.' I have a ten and eight-year-old and they don't let me hang out all night on the Internet posting US Airways news and company propaganda. I don't know how you do it. Nite nite!

Eye

 

[usairways_vote_NO]

QUOTE(PITbull @ Feb 26 2005, 04:21 PM)
Since when do you violate the contract of other unionized workers.

QUOTE(700UW @ Feb 26 2005, 04:31 PM)
How can you be proud and boast about doing work that is not yours?

QUOTE(mweiss @ Feb 27 2005, 11:34 PM)
These two comments pretty much encompass the element of unions that bother me the most.

I say: Only because its not your job they are protecting. I bet you wouldn't be real pleased with the person, who was hired to do a job, but did your job thereby making you expendable. It's not the employees fault he was hired and made to join a union to do a job under a contract that was in force when he hired on. Should he just willing let someone come in a do his job, be let go and take his food taken from his table? I'll let you in on a secret the worst part about a union is the slackers who take advantage of the situation and make others members take up his slack and then the rightfully get the same protection from the union as anyone else because they play their dues.