Flight Attendant Cleaning Station Update

[justaumechanic]

Exactly now many flight attendants come here to have anyone, least of all you, tell them there job responsibilities? My guess, none.

[post="250990"][/post]​

Look at who posted the article.. This has nothing to do with people finding anything about their job..

This is all about USA320 loving to show everyone how people lost their jobs and how others have to pick up the slack..

Notice how the Pilots don't have to do anything.. All they have to do is stand in the galley, watch the F/A's pick up the cabin and laugh.. That is what USA320 is going to do.. He's not going to lend a hand..

The lover of outsourcing and management wants to post things like this to make him look big.. In reality he's compensating for something else.. USA320 is a MSA
to the 10th degree..

 

[workngd]

Wait til they ask catering to dump the trash. Take the trash off then use the same gloves to put on the food. Utility has been understaffed for years. These are people we work beside everyday that do I lot more than anyone will ever know. 9/11 has changed this industry for ever. Who is going to do all the security checks? Contract cleaners or F/A's. Like it was said, I had rather have the F/A's doing safety checks before flight. And I have asked before, is this company ready to go back to having the pilots check their oil and load their bags? We are not a commuter airline but a major airline. Wonder when we will start acting like one!

 

[700UW]

workngd,
Thanks for the kind words about Utility, most everyone else wants to throw them under the bus. But they will miss them once they are gone, if you thinks the planes are bad now, wait until the vendors and FAs take over.

You can't have food and trash on the same catering truck, we have been through this before with the FDA. No food that is going onto a airplane including drinks and ice can be on the same truck that will have trash on it from the flights.

 

[wheels]

Good, now the gate agents can attend to boarding passengers instead of cleaning
the darn airplane!

Finally, something that makes sense.

Thanks Southwest and Jetblue.

 

[USA320Pilot]

Nobody wants to throw anybody "under the bus", its about cost effectively performing work.

Contractors in locatios like PHX and LAS do a superb cleaning job. Moreover, many pilots currently help F/A's do cabin cleaning and in the future, I and many of my colleagues will pitch in, just like we do now.

The IAM had a chance to save Utility jobs, but their negotiating position got them a contract with a "give" 40% higher than the initial "ask". Nobody has anybody to blame but them self for what happened to the IAM and its members.

Regards,

USA320Pilot

 

[USA320Pilot]

PitBull:

Most US Airways employees think of the customer first. The plane needed to be cleaned and people needed to get to their destination. Thus, everybody pitched in and the F/A’s began cleaning the aircraft. Moreover, the CSA’s pitched in too.

Why? These people understand that the customer pays every employees paycheck and they come first. I’m surprised you do not understand that.

Moreover, the customers are also the CSA’s who would have to re-book people if a flight is canceled during a snowstorm, during a Utility slowdowns, which is occurring.

Best regards,

USA320Pilot

 

[Dog Wonder]

A utility slowdown? What is your source for that piece of information?

 

[USA320Pilot]

Dog Wonder:

It's not an organized slowdown, its a lack of motivation. In fact, some stations have put gloves in the CSA area for them to help with cleaning too.

Utility workers have begun receiving their paperwork indicating their jobs are being eliminated and their work effort has slowed. I have seen it wiht my own eyes and the company is moving on.

Regards,

USA320pilot

 

[700UW]

When you do the work of another group's CBA you are a scab, plain and simple.

What you fail to realize for the past several months any utility person that has left the company has not been replaced, they are working extremely short handed.

Next time your copilot does not show up, maybe I can jump in the right seat, you know we don't want to inconvenience any passengers.

And since you were not at Negotiations with the company and the IAM, you would not have any clue that the elimination of utility was a deal breaker, see the company refused to bargain on anything in regard to keeping utility jobs.

See once again you are not an IAM member, on the Negotiating Committee nor an IAM Representative.

You are wrong, you have no morals and no scruples.

 

[savyinvestor]

Dog Wonder:

It's not an organized slowdown, its a lack of motivation. In fact, some stations have put gloves in the CSA area for them to help with cleaning too.

Utility workers have begun receiving their paperwork indicating their jobs are being eliminated and their work effort has slowed. I have seen it wiht my own eyes and the company is moving on.

Regards,

USA320pilot

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You see everything with your own eyes. F/A's reading the paper, utility slow downs and who knows what else. Why don't you try minding your own business and concentrate on reading the USA Today while the auto pilot is engaged? :down: Savy

 

[USA320Pilot]

700UW:

What you do not understand is that it's a union's responsibility to get the best deal they can. During periods of deteriorating fundamentals a union should limit their loss and during periods of strong fundamentals a union should seek a better contract.

That's what you refuse to understand, but the facts are the IAM gave the greatest amount of a concession and had the greatest percentage "give" over the "ask". In my opinion, you and your union miserably failed, however, that was your choice. As I said early on, the IAM was not going to cut a deal and they made the utility workers expendable.

Separately, US Airways is a customer service company and one of the things that sets companies like jetBlue Airways apart is that they’re a team. For example, I understand the company puts non-revs in the back of the plane and they help clean as they deplane. That’s called caring about your company and teamwork, not this self righteous union attitude some of our more frequent posters display.

Will I help our customers and give them the best service possible? Absolutely, that’s my job and I will do it to the best of my ability, versus a slow down, which gives a company more reason to replace unproductive people.

In regard to flying an aircraft, if you were qualified and the TSA and FAA would allow it, you could fly the jet.

Regards,

USA320Pilot

 

[PITbull]

PitBull:

Most US Airways employees think of the customer first. The plane needed to be cleaned and people needed to get to their destination. Thus, everybody pitched in and the F/A’s began cleaning the aircraft. Moreover, the CSA’s pitched in too.

Why? These people understand that the customer pays every employees paycheck and they come first. I’m surprised you do not understand that.

Moreover, the customers are also the CSA’s who would have to re-book people if a flight is canceled during a snowstorm, during a Utility slowdowns, which is occurring.

Best regards,

USA320Pilot

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Here's what I understand, we are not in business to provide charity. This is a profit for business enterprise. We now have to start making a profit and sustaining low fares will put everyone out of business.

We as employees will not come to work for free and not be able to pay our bills.

You either have a business plan that works at this point, or you shut the doors.

 

[700UW]

You are the one who fails to realize what transpired, you sit behind a keyboard, yet you are not an ALPA Representative nor a Member of the IAM, its Negotiating Committee nor a Representative.

You have no idea of what went on during negotiations, you were not there. The IAM was not in a position of strength, the company has Judge Mitchell in their pocket and the laws are against labor and in favor of big business.

You see no union on the property was asked to give up 50% of its jobs and that is a fact. No union with any credibility could bring back a tentative agreement that eliminated a classification and 50% of the entire workforce. Maybe if you were ever in a leadership role in Union Matters you would finally comprehend the issues.

By the way are you trained in Biohazards? Trained in making sure you don't get stuck with a needle while performing work that is not in your collective bargaining agreement?

There is no Utility slowdown, you better stop spreading lies, it is called being short handed.

See it is called respect, you have none for anyother workers including your fellow pilots. See the company sets the manpower staffing, not the IAM and its members, and when over a hundred people in one department leave and the company does not replace anyone, it is impossible to run a efficient operation.

See you need to resign your ALPA membersip and become a non-member, a person who believes in unions and trade unionism does not perform work of anyother union and its CBA.

In my eyes and many others your actions are the actions of a scab and a enemy of labor.

You will never ever understand, you are a traitor to the Labor Movement, and you sorry excuses are nothinig more then you trying to justify your wrong actions.

 

[USA320Pilot]

700UW:

Right, I do not understand. Your efforts contributed to virtually every Utility employee losing their job or taking an entry level FSA position. Yep, your approach worked well and I do not know what I am talking about.

Keep up the good work and maybe the other 50 utility people can lose their job too. Unionism is alive and well -- with the IAM giving more than 40% more than the company's "ask".

Regards,

USA320Pilot

 

[700UW]

Yep you don't understand.

R E A D T H I S S L O W L Y:

The company was hell-bent on the elimination of Utility, the IAM came up with numerous ways for that not to happen, the company refused every offer from the IAM in regard to saving Utility.

And it is not entry level, it is first year pay, gee you can't even get that right.

Can you not understand no union was asked to give up 50% of the workforce?

Can you not understand the IAM could not reach a T/A that eliminated 50% of the workforce and all line utility?

See you were not there and have no idea of what transpired, you sit behind your monitor throwing out misinformation, diversionary posting and can never admit that you have been shown to be wrong time after time.

Like I said you are a traitor to the labor movement and unions, resign from ALPA, maybe I should tell your Idol Pollack that you performed work that was protected by another unions CBA.

And did you realize you actually cost the company money, see when you do an IAM represented job, it is a contract violation and the company has to pay a monetary award to the grievant?

Gee sparky, guess you don't think long-range.

And the ask was $252 million, gee can you ever get something right?