Flight Attendant Cleaning Station Update

[Headhunter]

I really don't see why this type of info is neccessary for this forum though. I'd imagine US Airways Flight Attendants are quite aware of thier new duties, and would rather not have it broadcast publically.

[post="251056"][/post]​

As a pax, I find it interesting. Since when was this an employees-only forum?

I'm a clean person and a considerate pax, but it will make me all the more understanding knowing that my US F/A might be a little slow with my pre-board drink because he or she just spent unpaid time between flights cleaning up the cabin.

I'd rather have my F/A, who's there for my safety first, make sure the inflight medical equipment is intact and that nothing is blocking the exit row - and have utility clean the a/c - but, if this is what the new F/A contract says, I can at least do my part to make it easier on my safety professional. I'd also rather have my pilot spend an extra few minutes checking his or her instruments and doing a safety walkaround, instead of picking up trash from floor, emptying seat back pockets, crossing seat belts and lifting up window shades.

 

[700UW]

Welcome to the Wal-Marting of America.

Looking at the planes, the last thing on management's mind is cleanliness.

 

[RedOne]

I would just hope they clean them well on overnights and such so the planes don't get filthy, but I've not got much faith in US for that.

[post="251056"][/post]​

Your faith is well founded. Think about the aircraft which overnite in a non-maint sta. Most of these aircraft are cleaned (?) by agents who are not given enough man hours to clean them. About all they have time to do is pick up the big pieces of trash off the floor, dump the ice, dump the trash, and then do a half-###-security inspection. Been there, done that. Oh, and you will not get either company or union to tell you how many man hours should be allowed at out-stations to clean an aircraft. The aircraft will be filthier very shortly.

 

[savyinvestor]

This is USA320's way of RESPECTFULLY rubbing salt in the wound. It is of little interest and the F/A already know its it the contract. Is he posting to remind them? :down: Savy

 

[PITbull]

Recently, there was a "Hot Sheet" sent out via theHUB regarding the new policies and procedures with respect to flight attendant cabin cleaning. There was an inadvertent omission to the policy which is located in our 2004 ratified side-letter of agreement Re: Cabin Cleaning.

Side Letter reads as follows:

A flight attendant will not be required to perform such cabin cleaning duties after the conclusion of his/her duty day.

What this means is that the duty day of a f/a may not coincide with the RON of an aircraft as stated on the hot sheet.

In plain English: If your duty day ends at 10:00 a.m. then you are not required to clean the a/c. That would be up to the company to either hire a vendor or have cleaners on board to clean the a/c.

And, it is NOT the responsibility of the "oncoming" crew.

 

[700UW]

Don't you know he only posted this to try to get to me upset.

 

[USA320Pilot]

Last Thursday during the snowstorm our crew flew 4 Shuttle flights. The flights were between LGA & DCA, DCA & BOS, Bos & DCA, and then DCA to LGA. The entire crew, all five of us, cleaned the aircraft on the through flights and we completed the work before Utility came on board.

It was a team effort that permitted the F/A's to have dinner and spread the workload to five versus one person. Then the CSA's were able to board passengers quicker and 3 out of 4 flights departed on time.

In regard to the post to start this topic, it was made because I believe the information was of interest to more people than just F/A's.

Regards,

USA320Pilot

 

[PITbull]

USA320,

Do you know what a contract is?

You have aided the f/as to BUST the IAM contract, their contract language including the side letter we just negotiated.

Since when do you violate the contract of other unionized workers.

I hope to hell the IAM filed a grievance on your azzez. In fact, 700, you need to investigate those flights and file a grievance against the ALPA and AFA for interfering in the work of the IAM untility.

Side letter states:

The company and the Association further understand and agree that this Letter of Agreement has the effect of (1) modifying Section 30F of the 2004 AFA-US Airways Agreement and (2) eliminating Letter of Agreement #21 dated March 25, 2000, and as modified by the December 3, 2002 letter from Michael J. Minerva to Perry Hayes. This Letter of Agreement does not require any flight attendant to engage in any individual cabin cleaning duty where doing so violates the scope provision then-governing any other non-flight attendant who both is employed by US Airways, Inc. and represented by any other union. Flight Attendants, however, will be required to perform all of the cabin cleaning duties defined above even instances where the Company has contracted vendor cleaners on duty.

This entire side letter in out agreement needs to be out on an MEC E-line.

 

[700UW]

Last Thursday during the snowstorm our crew flew 4 Shuttle flights. The flights were between LGA & DCA, DCA & BOS, Bos & DCA, and then DCA to LGA. The entire crew, all five of us, cleaned the aircraft on the through flights and we completed the work before Utility came on board.
Regards,
USA320Pilot

[post="251127"][/post]​

How can you be proud and boast about doing work that is not yours? I guess you can't understand what a contract is, what a union is and why don't you just kick the Utility workers before they get walked out the door one more time?

Do you know there are only 5 utility on duty for all the flights at LGA?

You are nothing more then this:



Mod note: stay on topic

 

[fatherof2]

Which F/A gets to clean the puke out of the sink? or the explosive diaherea that some pax left all over the lav? Is this done by seniority? These, while gross in nature are actual scenarios I have encountered in my 18 years on the line. I leave with no regrets, but I do have more than a few unanswered questions!

 

[usairways_vote_NO]

How can you be proud and boast about doing work that is not yours?  I guess you can't understand what a contract is, what a union is and why don't you just kick the Utility workers before they get walked out the door one more time?
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[post="251135"][/post]​

Do you really need that answered from someone that has advocated all along that others give up their jobs to save his?

 

[700UW]

UVN,

You are correct, I don't expect him to answer, but I was not going to let his boasting of being a scab go unanswered.

 

[usairways_vote_NO]

Yes 700 I do find it interesting he has gloated about what the company did with utility and now brags about doing their job as they are readying to be walked off the propery. I wonder if he plans on doing his own mechanical work too? and the rampers job? Will he ask for raise or say its part of his "pains" to keep his job?

I almost forgot could he want F/A's job too? and ticket agent?

 

[700UW]

Next time maybe he could go dump the lavs.

 

[Winglet]

Next time maybe he could go dump the lavs.

[post="251148"][/post]​

Customers should think about that F/A cleaning the diarrea in the toilets 60 minutes prior while their drink is getting poured and their food served.

Umm. Yummy.

Very classy airline.