Election Night Results....

[Ms Tree]

Most people who are on the losing side of any given decision tend to mislabel confidence as arrogance. So do people who've never been in a leadership position.It's really easy to second-guess someone's decision making ability when you've never had to make tough decisions...I think the lack of an answer has answered this. Leaders know when to admit they're outside their sphere of knowledge.

There you go making unfounded assumptions again.

 

[EastUS1]

Ms Tree: My experience has taught me that looking down on ones subordinates is most definitely not the most successful way of getting things accomplished as a team.

You remind me of some doctors who come into my place of work and introduce them selves as 'Dr X".  As if I care that they are a doctor.  They are not there to give me medical advice.  They are there to pick up their orders and get fitted.  They feel like by them stating their title that they are entitles to some sort of deference and they will receive nothing of the sort.  My doc and I are on a first name basis.  She knows she is a Dr and I know she is a Dr.  No need to prove the point each time we see each other.

 
Apparently unlike yourself; my experience taught me that due deference to the greater experience of my superiors was also both appropriate and helpful in mission accomplishment. I was never so incredibly arrogant as to feel some need for a "first name basis" relationship with them though. "As if I care that they are a doctor."..."She knows she is a Dr and I know she is a Dr. No need to prove the point each time we see each other." Wow! It must nearly kiil you to ever offer up even the slightest respect to anyone more accomplished and knowledgeable than yourself, even while you're personally and directly benefitting from theirs. Would it really harm you to address her as Doctor? Would civilization crumble were you to ever evidence the slightest respect for her education and proper title? Should everyone always be considered as nothing more than at best your "equal"? One can now better see where your politics and beliefs come from "Comrade." You recall to mind a counseling session with a troubled teen. The then young man-in-the-making was in a very rebellious state, and offered that he "won't respect anybody that don't respect me first." When it was pointed out to him that just maybe both his mother and his school teachers had a bit larger base of knowledge and experience to draw on, it made not the slightest initial impression on him, but simply angered him further.

 

[EastUS1]

What is really surprising to me is this Republican victory went so far downstream into the State and Local Elections. The "R's" picked up Governors, with Corbett of PA being the only loser of note. State houses that haven't had a Republican majority since 1952 now are controlled by Republican's.
 
All of these victories were NOT confined to so called Red States as even the NY State Senate went Republican despite Cuomo's landslide victory for Governor.
 
I saw this coming along time ago during my traveling days and time in MN. You get away from the big cities and people are in a word "Pissed". in general. There is an image going around that calls the red states "Backwardistan". IMO the name is wrong as it should be "Pissedoffistan" to more accurately reflect what happened.

 
Indeed. The degree of anger and wholesale disgust with the socialist agenda was something to see. While I share your very reasonable reservations on the massive political machines involved, it was still very gratifying to see proof that the American people aren't ready to roll over and play dead yet, and hopefully will never be.

 

[signals]

As if I have to justify or prove anything to you.

I don't

And again I dont.

That continues to be your quote when you are wrong. "I can't" is what you are trying to say.

 

[Ms Tree]

Ms Tree: My experience has taught me that looking down on ones subordinates is most definitely not the most successful way of getting things accomplished as a team.

 
Apparently unlike yourself; my experience taught me that due deference to the greater experience of my superiors was also both appropriate and helpful in mission accomplishment. I was never so incredibly arrogant as to feel some need for a "first name basis" relationship with them though. "As if I care that they are a doctor."..."She knows she is a Dr and I know she is a Dr. No need to prove the point each time we see each other." Wow! It must nearly kiil you to ever offer up even the slightest respect to anyone more accomplished and knowledgeable than yourself, even while you're personally and directly benefitting from theirs. Would it really harm you to address her as Doctor? Would civilization crumble were you to ever evidence the slightest respect for her education and proper title? Should everyone always be considered as nothing more than at best your "equal"? One can now better see where your politics and beliefs come from "Comrade." You recall to mind a counseling session with a troubled teen. The then young man-in-the-making was in a very rebellious state, and offered that he "won't respect anybody that don't respect me first." When it was pointed out to him that just maybe both his mother and his school teachers had a bit larger base of knowledge and experience to draw on, it made not the slightest initial impression on him, but simply angered him further.

I respect the individual, not the title.

 

[EastUS1]

I respect the individual, not the title.

 
OK then. Apply that same logic to the current POTUS, and kindly explain what possible basis exists for myself or ANYONE else to actually respect the "president" as an individual?....? This should be fun.
 
Should obama's case prove too difficult there, feel free to substitute harry reid or nancy pelosi at your pleasure. Aw heck; we might as well throw in erich holder as well....? Perhaps even lois lerner for some additional laughs..?

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

As if I have to justify or prove anything to you.

I don't

And again I dont.

Liberals never do.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

As I stated earlier, I have no need to prove anything to you nor anyone else on this board.  Signals has been pestering me for who knows how long on my citizenship and he, as you can go on wanting.  My personal life is just that, personal. I will disclose what I want when I want.
 
You remind me of some doctors who come into my place of work and introduce them selves as 'Dr X".  As if I care that they are a doctor.  They are not there to give me medical advice.  They are there to pick up their orders and get fitted.  They feel like by them stating their title that they are entitles to some sort of deference and they will receive nothing of the sort.  My doc and I are on a first name basis.  She knows she is a Dr and I know she is a Dr.  No need to prove the point each time we see each other.

They EARNED that title.
 
Try it sometime.
 
Typical liberal trying to debase others accomplishments.

 

[Ms Tree]

OK then. Apply that same logic to the current POTUS, and kindly explain what possible basis exists for myself or ANYONE else to actually respect the "president" as an individual?....? This should be fun.
 
Should obama's case prove too difficult there, feel free to substitute harry reid or nancy pelosi at your pleasure. Aw heck; we might as well throw in erich holder as well....? Perhaps even lois lerner for some additional laughs..?

I don't think there is one. Can't think of a president in my life time that I would respect. Correction. I think Carter was a good persons but he was too honest for the office.

You forgot Folley, Gingrich, akin, Brown ....

 

[Ms Tree]

They EARNED that title.
 
Try it sometime.
 
Typical liberal trying to debase others accomplishments.

Never said they did not earn it. Then again it also has nothing to with respect. I respect the person. Whether their title is mother or president makes no difference to me.

 

[delldude]

You have to learn to glean the famous words of wisdom from Barack Obama:
 
Obama's Message to GOP:
       I Won. Get Over It

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

Never said they did not earn it. Then again it also has nothing to with respect. I respect the person. Whether their title is mother or president makes no difference to me.

Being a mother or president does not require 11-15 (or even more) years of education.
 
4 years of undergraduate school, 4 years of medical school then 3-7 years of residency.
 
That is almost half of their working career spent educating themselves. Not to mention the cost.
 
As I said you are a typical libtard trying to debase others accomplishments. I highly suspect you have never accomplished anything worthwhile in your whole life.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU9A_oN6NV8

 

[Ms Tree]

Being a mother or president does not require 11-15 (or even more) years of education.
 
4 years of undergraduate school, 4 years of medical school then 3-7 years of residency.
 
That is almost half of their working career spent educating themselves. Not to mention the cost.
 
As I said you are a typical libtard trying to debase others accomplishments. I highly suspect you have never accomplished anything worthwhile in your whole life.
 

Dr Kerman Gosnell.
Dr lou Tierce
Cpt Thomas Cloyd & FO Christopher Hughes
Professor Kenneth Kyle

You are a typical conservative. Opening your mouth with out thinking it through and being more impressed with the title than the content of a person's character.

So, do you respect the people mentioned above or do you condemn them in light of their actions. According to what you wrote, you would have to respect them all given the fact that they spent years and money to obtain their title.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

I highly suspect you have never accomplished anything worthwhile in your whole life.

 

Dr Kerman Gosnell.
Dr lou Tierce
Cpt Thomas Cloyd & FO Christopher Hughes
Professor Kenneth Kyle

You are a typical conservative. Opening your mouth with out thinking it through and being more impressed with the title than the content of a person's character.

So, do you respect the people mentioned above or do you condemn them in light of their actions. According to what you wrote, you would have to respect them all given the fact that they spent years and money to obtain their title.

 
I will take that as a NO.
 
What do you want to bet that when people cite Obama's many crimes Ms Tree tells them to "respect the office".
 
Typical two faced double standard libtard.

 

[Ms Tree]

 
 
I will take that as a NO.
 
What do you want to bet that when people cite Obama's many crimes Ms Tree tells them to "respect the office".
 
Typical two faced double standard libtard.

Why dont you actually answer a question for once in your life instead of always making these stupid juvenile personal attacks?
 
Do you respect the people I mentioned above because of the education they spent getting their 'titles' or not?  I do not respect them because I do not care about the education or time spent.  I care about the person and what they do. 
 
And if you would actually read my responses you would have seen the answer to your question in my reply to East.  I do not respect any of the presidents we have had in my life time with the exception of Carter.  He was not a great president but he was/is a good person.
 
I could not give a rats ass about 'the office" as I think the person makes the office, not the other way around.  Obama is a crap president.  His only good trait was that I think he was a better choice than the alternatives presented.
 
So again, answer the question asked above if you have the balls to.  I won't hold my breath.