Egypt Looking for Change?

[Dog Wonder]

Now, if you "Can't" figure it out , just admit it and I'll be more than happy to enlighten you !

Nice job of proving his point.

 

[Ms Tree]

Ok. Ill bite again. How is ignoring the ravings of a lunatic abrogating someones freedom. She can rant and rave all she wants but with the ignore feature I don't have to read it. I have the freedom not to have to read it just as I have the freedom to to watch Limbaugh or Beck. No ones freedoms are being affected.

 

[Ms Tree]

Excellent way to abrogate freedom of speech. Bet both you guys all for fairness.....

Ok. Ill bite again. How is ignoring the ravings of a lunatic abrogating someones freedom. I have grown fired of her.insults and tunel vision. She can rant and rave all she wants but with the ignore feature I don't have to read it. I have the freedom not to have to read it just as I have the freedom to to watch Limbaugh or Beck. No ones freedoms are being affected.

 

[dapoes]

Ok. Ill bite again. How is ignoring the ravings of a lunatic abrogating someones freedom. I have grown fired of her.insults and tunel vision. She can rant and rave all she wants but with the ignore feature I don't have to read it. I have the freedom not to have to read it just as I have the freedom to to watch Limbaugh or Beck. No ones freedoms are being affected.

Like i said before, you couldn't ignore me if you tried. You just choose to surrender and wave the white flag when your lies and bs have been exposed. /golfclap

 

[dapoes]

And guess who is jockeying to fill the void left in the vacuum of revolution. Just as they are in Tunisia and back they had a similar revolution in Iran in 1979.

The Muslim Brotherhood, the largest political opposition organization in Egypt, said it will join Friday’s demonstrations.

A member of the group's Executive Bureau and its spokesman, Dr. Mohamed Morsi, said that the group will participate in a demonstration after Friday prayers in order to "achieve popular demands."

Guess it depends on who's popular demands will be fulfilled.

 

[Ms Tree]

Protests in Yemen now. Pro-western Pres in in a bit f hot water. So far it seems to be a peaceful one. May be this one will not devolve into a blood fest.

Yemen protests

 

[777 fixer]

I've heard comparisons to Eastern Europe in the late eighties. Of course Eastern Europe did not have groups like the Muslim Brotherhood waiting in the shadows.

 

[Ms Tree]

It will be interesting to see what happens. I hope they do not exchange one despot for another. I think it is obvious from the fiasco in Iraq that ME countries are not suited to a representative government, at least not yet and not the way we envision it. For the most part they are a very religious people and that does not go well with a republic such as ours (you would think we would see that our selves). Perhaps they will get a leader who will gradually start separating religion from government and putting them on a different track. All we can do is sit back and hope for the best. Intervention of any type if found out would surely explode in our face.

 

[Ms Tree]

Dialoge possible

Egypt's ruling party said it was ready for a dialogue with the public but offered no concessions to address demands for a solution to rampant poverty and political change heard in the country's largest anti-government protests in years. Safwat El-Sherif, the secretary general of the National Democratic Party and a longtime confidant of Mubarak, was dismissive of the protesters at the first news conference by a senior ruling party figure since the protests began.

"We are confident of our ability to listen. The NDP is ready for a dialogue with the public, youth and legal parties," he said. "But democracy has its rules and process. The minority does not force its will on the majority."

Since when did Egypt become a democracy? I guess the chance of talking/listening is better than a swift kick in the nads. I think the government ought to do more than just listen because if they do not, they might find them selves packing up sooner rather than later. Here's to hoping.

 

[dapoes]

Egypt arrests Muslim Brotherhood leaders

Im sure that will go over well.

 

[Ms Tree]

Looks like Cairo is coming down hard on the protesters. They deployed their counterterror unit which has not been seen for quite some time.

After midnight, security forces arrested at least five Brotherhood leaders and five former Members of Parliament, according to the group's lawyer, Abdel-Moneim Abdel-Maksoud, and spokesman, Walid Shalaby. They said security forces had also taken a large number of Brotherhood members in a sweep in Cairo and elsewhere.

No mention of Mohamed ElBaradei. Getting rid of the Brotherhood guys seems like it might be a good idea. They seem to be quite radical and may be that will push people to listen to El Baradei.

If the protests continue I predict it will get very ugly very fast. I guess now we find out exactly how badly and how may Egyptians really want to change their country.

Egypt uprising

 

[777 fixer]

The latest is the internet has been shutdown in Egypt. I'm going to guess that Egypt has computer geeks that have already found a way around this.

 

[dapoes]

Al Jazeera has a live stream in English on the events unfolding: http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

*UPDATE Police have entered Al Jazeera offices and may get shutdown as well. Government imposed curfew is pending and anxiety builds as a result.

 

[dapoes]

The latest is the internet has been shutdown in Egypt. I'm going to guess that Egypt has computer geeks that have already found a way around this.

Maybe this will give people cause for concerned for the same thing that is being proposed in the US.

Egypt turns off internet, Lieberman wants same option for US

 

[dapoes]

Smoke and fire being seen around the ruling National Democratic Party headquarters in downtown Cairo and heavy ammunition fire being reported, looks like curfew is largely being ignored.

Great coverage on Al Jazeera live stream in English
http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/