Black Magic
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Looks like the auto industry feels differently than Doug about including its workers in company success. According to the news many auto workers are receiving profit sharing checks of up to $11,000.
Doug Parker decries profit sharing....
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WeAAsles
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In the Cranky Flyer interview Doug said that he is trying to improve very old and very toxic labor relations at the old AA.Black Magic said:
Doug currently you have a large portion of your workforce who hasn't seen the increases that it seems are being doled out to the rest of the industry. Your Lawyers are so far from what we've seen trying to keep our Pre Funding Retiree Medical match and you doled out a 4% increase last year ONLY to groups that already had a contract and played ball with you.
All the niceties and trying to commit to opening your ears and listening to our concerns are fine and dandy. But none of that honestly pays anyone's bills and at the end of the month that's really all that matters to most people. And that's the complete truth.
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What you are saying is just plain common sense.Koolcat said:
What I am trying to point out is that when the last contract was established, an "Industry Comparable Pay Adjustment" for Title 1 AMT's was contractually agreed to, as seen in the TWU Title 1 contract book under Article 4 Compensation page 35, whereby on a given date a Wage Adjustment would be applied to replace the standard 3% increase with a formulated method for compensation. My point is the Airlines selected to participate, which were United, Delta and USAir.
Why would the TWU allow for a non union airline to be used within this formula. Why are we as unionized mechanic's being averaged with a non union airline?
While the wages might be a possible reason, Delta's 50% outsourcing is a throat cutting factor that is probably being discussed in Association negotiation at this very moment.
I believe Doug Parker has said that to obtain the wages that the work rules would have to change.
My query has nothing to do with the MRO's but only this Formula within the TWU contract book.
I understand that in a larger picture that MRO's are a major factor.
I also understand that the mechanic membership does not decide, under the TWU they never have.
As for the Market, this Local membership does believe that if the economy falls, the opportunity for a substantial wage and benefit increase will fade.
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not surprised by that til they take the taxes out and itll be lower....
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Everyone gets 21.4% of their gross earnings (minus a few items like last year's payout amount, etc.)..,luvthe9 said:
FWIW, profit sharing day is usually on 2/14, but that's a Sunday this year, so it'll be on 2/12 instead...
absolutely explain that please, right after YOU explain when we will get the delta plus whatever they are promising this month. its only been 14 months since EVERYONE but ASSOCIATION members got 4% across the board and 9 months since the fix was in on the no vote association. yea yea i know if we did it earlier we would have missed the 14% that delta got. but hey nothing plus nothing still equals the **** sandwich we ate. and gets served up every day at the new american west airlines.....700UW said:
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Do you want DL's profit sharing?
Are you willing to give up your CBA?
No scope?
DL hasn't added a ramp station since the merger and has cut stations?
Are you willing to have 50% ready reserve who get no benefits except flight?
In 2012 DL cut the profit sharing by 33% from 15% to 10%, because the unionized pilots negotiations it. In return the pilots got a 20% raise from June of 2012 till December of 2014.
Meanwhile the non-union ramp and CSA got 2%-8% raises over the same time frame.
See DL's non-union employees have three different pay scales from ramp, CSA and etc..
And none of them top out at the same rates.
And now DL has once again reduced Profit Sharing again, except for the pilots as they voted it down.
Are you willing to give up your CBA?
No scope?
DL hasn't added a ramp station since the merger and has cut stations?
Are you willing to have 50% ready reserve who get no benefits except flight?
In 2012 DL cut the profit sharing by 33% from 15% to 10%, because the unionized pilots negotiations it. In return the pilots got a 20% raise from June of 2012 till December of 2014.
Meanwhile the non-union ramp and CSA got 2%-8% raises over the same time frame.
See DL's non-union employees have three different pay scales from ramp, CSA and etc..
And none of them top out at the same rates.
And now DL has once again reduced Profit Sharing again, except for the pilots as they voted it down.
