Did everyone leave?

[JimmyBop]

You're capacity for self delusion never ceases to amaze me.

So how about your boy Justin Trudeau taking on the part of Strike Breaker.

Just another leftist PoS denying people their voice in favor of government control.

Not too long ago you had celebrity after celebrity declare they were moving to Canada if Trump won the presidency (then didn't follow through). Wonder what they think of their socialist utopia now?

Justin Trudeau is just another leftist hack showing his true commie colors. Government overreach has become his modus operandi.

I have personally not seen anything from the Association condemning Justin Trudeau's strike breaking measures. To me that speaks volumes. Party before principle aye WeAAsles?

TWU has members in Canada? Maybe that condemnation will come after TWU puts out a statement on worker rights in Fredonia where they also don't have any members....

 

[swamt]

Ok so what it seems like you’re trying to say here is the smaller and smaller your group gets the better the representation AMFA will be able to provide for you. Also not sure how you can continue to believe that M&R at AA are not represented when their are over 15,000 members and their contract is just as good individually as yours?

And it’s better period because plain and simply it provides far more of an opportunity to get in than yours ever possibly could. You yourself just said that you are going to grow by 14 people. Meanwhile the rest of the Industry in every Group is growing by Thousands.

But AMFA at SWA is growing by 14. That’s quality representation alright. 🤦‍♂️

No, not at all and you know that. I said AMFA is a better representing entity because they only focus on the Mechanic and Related group. A very, very one industry focused, instead of, multiple different industries like the asso at AA represents (12+) with a rather very large main focus on fleet and other larger groups than the Mechanic and Related. I never said the AA'ers were not represented, period. I never said we would grow by only 14 people. I said our eng shop employees will grow by over 14 in the year 2022. This does not account for the thousands they are still hiring from OVER5K last year within the last few months and again this year will be over 8-9K more. My 14 reference was simply only on one two shifts Days and an added graveyard coming later this year and then more as needed to keep all the new work added flowing efficiently and on time.

Wrong again skippy and see, there ya go again with the twisting and misinformation. AMFA is growing way more than the 14 in our eng shop and you know it. Nice try there skippy, ain't gonna work...

 

[swamt]

swamt I want to try to get you out of that fantasyland you live in when thinking what you have is so much better than the AA M&R.

Go ahead and cherry pick this Contract for yourself. Post multiple examples where your AMFA contract is so much better for the individual AMT than this Association negotiated one? At the end of the day we all work for our Companies for pay and benefits. I’d bet that overall an AMT at AA with the same time as you at SWA pretty much makes the same?

http://www.twu-iam.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/MR-JCBA-TA-Final-3-9-20.pdf

http://www.amfanational.org/docs/contracts/AMFA_SWA_AMT_TA_20190401_print.pdf

Wrong again. Do your own homework.

 

[swamt]

They eliminated my shop after the TWU president of local 514 (who was in Fleet Service) and the Fleet Service Chairman encouraged the membership to vote for concessionary contracts. It's pretty telling that both of them had jobs waiting for them while everyone else in the shop was forced to put in a transfer or hit the street, with the Fleet Service Chairman even bypassing seniority.

I had made up my mind to leave before I even knew they were eliminating the shop. That is why I already had a good portion of my schooling done by the time I ASKED for early release *(with severance), so I could focus on finishing out my schooling.

keep believing your fantasies though.

The only thing TWU showed me is the representatives the membership voted for were willing to stab them in the back to cover their own ass and the international was willing to look the other way, all while taking deductions every two weeks.


Oh I deserved it? Along with the other 100+ people in the shop? And TUL? Now THAT'S the TWU I know.


I wasn't wondering. I assumed he was. After all he earned it shilling for the company.

You ever wonder why I did not put in a transfer to another shop at TULE WeAAsles? Ponder on that while you act the fool.


And thanks for keeping your track record as a liar obvious and intact.

I remember it all too. Great representation when they constantly agree to outsourcing, layoffs, and positions cut isn't it?

 

[swamt]

swamt I want to try to get you out of that fantasyland you live in when thinking what you have is so much better than the AA M&R.

Go ahead and cherry pick this Contract for yourself. Post multiple examples where your AMFA contract is so much better for the individual AMT than this Association negotiated one? At the end of the day we all work for our Companies for pay and benefits. I’d bet that overall an AMT at AA with the same time as you at SWA pretty much makes the same?

http://www.twu-iam.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/MR-JCBA-TA-Final-3-9-20.pdf

http://www.amfanational.org/docs/contracts/AMFA_SWA_AMT_TA_20190401_print.pdf

Weez I am not going to go thru this crap again. It has been discussed numerous upon numerous times with these threads and I am done with the back and forth. The contracts are out there, let whoever wants read them and compare as they wish. Also the history of layoffs, lost jobs, lost positions, as well as the corrupt TWU moves as in LuLu's case provided. Also the improvements in contracts are also out there. Your latest AA contract is simply a restore ONLY not an improvement. Matter fact they didn't even restore enough to get them back to where they were before the BK, they simply did not restore to even where they were, and that my friend, is pathetic and embarrassing to say the least. And BTW; WHAT EVER HAPPEND TO THE RETRO??? Never mind, there wasn't any now was there???

 

[JimmyBop]

Weez I am not going to go thru this crap again. It has been discussed numerous upon numerous times with these threads and I am done with the back and forth. The contracts are out there, let whoever wants read them and compare as they wish. Also the history of layoffs, lost jobs, lost positions, as well as the corrupt TWU moves as in LuLu's case provided. Also the improvements in contracts are also out there. Your latest AA contract is simply a restore ONLY not an improvement. Matter fact they didn't even restore enough to get them back to where they were before the BK, they simply did not restore to even where they were, and that my friend, is pathetic and embarrassing to say the least. And BTW; WHAT EVER HAPPEND TO THE RETRO??? Never mind, there wasn't any now was there???

Typical craft union mentality. Northwest Airlines....'nuff said. BTW...what was the vote count by the democratic organization you claim is better to take those mechanics out on strike? The actual vote count to strike or not to strike? Where is the transparent ruling to the lawsuit settlement with Southwest during the last negotiation? Please share the democratic, transparent details to both of those issues that impacted your membership?

 

[WeAAsles]

Typical craft union mentality. Northwest Airlines....'nuff said. BTW...what was the vote count by the democratic organization you claim is better to take those mechanics out on strike? The actual vote count to strike or not to strike? Where is the transparent ruling to the lawsuit settlement with Southwest during the last negotiation? Please share the democratic, transparent details to both of those issues that impacted your membership?

Forget it man. That guy does nothing but babble, spin, and deflect. He won’t even answer a simple question about what makes his contract so much more superior to the Association contract. Even I could have at least been honest and said that their contract tops out in 5 rather than 9. That’s a good deal. Of course you have to be able to get a job there in the first place though.

Swamp doesn’t have the integrity to ever be honest about anything. Did you read how he said they have over 5,000 AMT’s now and are hiring 9,000 more this year. WOW…..

 

[WeAAsles]

TWU has members in Canada? Maybe that condemnation will come after TWU puts out a statement on worker rights in Fredonia where they also don't have any members....

He must be getting confused with the TWU in Australia that has nothing to do with it’s American counterpart.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

TWU has members in Canada? Maybe that condemnation will come after TWU puts out a statement on worker rights in Fredonia where they also don't have any members....

UNIONs like to paint the left (Democrats) as supporters of labor.

Justin Trudeau is very much a leftist politician playing the part of strike breaker.

The Association should make a public statement that they support the truck drivers (labor) and condemn the actions of government overreach.

The fact it is in Canada is irrelevant. This is world news and an opportunity for the Association to publicly show support for labor, regardless of the location. However they won't because party/agenda before principle.

I find it disappointing I have to walk you through something so obvious.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

He must be getting confused with the TWU in Australia that has nothing to do with it’s American counterpart.

No confusion here. You. like Bop, are too dense to see the obvious right in front of your face.

For an organization who claims to support labor their silence on this issue, that is grabbing global attention, is deafening.

The difference between you and I is you actually believe your UNION is a labor organization and I know better.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

Forget it man. That guy does nothing but babble, spin, and deflect. He won’t even answer a simple question about what makes his contract so much more superior to the Association contract.

Are you writing about that guy in the looking glass?

You are describing........ you.

Even I could have at least been honest

Let's not get crazy now. We all know better.

Swamp doesn’t have the integrity to ever be honest about anything.

Exactly what I have been saying about you for years.

 

[swamt]

Typical craft union mentality. Northwest Airlines....'nuff said. BTW...what was the vote count by the democratic organization you claim is better to take those mechanics out on strike? The actual vote count to strike or not to strike? Where is the transparent ruling to the lawsuit settlement with Southwest during the last negotiation? Please share the democratic, transparent details to both of those issues that impacted your membership?

Do your own homework. I have and already have read all the details.

 

[swamt]

Forget it man. That guy does nothing but babble, spin, and deflect. He won’t even answer a simple question about what makes his contract so much more superior to the Association contract. Even I could have at least been honest and said that their contract tops out in 5 rather than 9. That’s a good deal. Of course you have to be able to get a job there in the first place though.

Swamp doesn’t have the integrity to ever be honest about anything. Did you read how he said they have over 5,000 AMT’s now and are hiring 9,000 more this year. WOW…..

Never said we had 5K AMT's. Again you twist and mislead. Re-read it DA. I said they hired 5K employees in 2020 within the last few months AND they were geared up to hire 8K more in 2022. And now weezy, that has changed. Yes, breaking news there skippy. Our new CEO just announced in the Dallas Morning News-titled- "A look Inside new CEO's plans, tastes"
He is now changing from 8K being hired to "tens of thousands" of new employees to be hired to handle the new planned growth coming. Also he states we will grow to 1000 plus aircraft in the near future (I believe by 2024).
I never ONCE said those would be or were all AMT's. You really need to learn how to comprehend what is posted and what you read. You are so easy dude, you look pathetic.

 

[swamt]

LuLu, This is what ya get when dealing with uneducated folks, especially when they are only here on a mission. They haven't changed since they first came on, removed and returned. The twins are simply bored. Do we really wanna waste our time with these two any longer?
I say time for us to move on, let them do what ever they wish. Time to put these morons on ignore. Have a nice life twins...

Edit by me: Now for a more peaceful dialog. LuLu, you might try the ignore feature, I did.

 

[WeAAsles]

Never said we had 5K AMT's. Again you twist and mislead. Re-read it DA. I said they hired 5K employees in 2020 within the last few months AND they were geared up to hire 8K more in 2022. And now weezy, that has changed. Yes, breaking news there skippy. Our new CEO just announced in the Dallas Morning News-titled- "A look Inside new CEO's plans, tastes"
He is now changing from 8K being hired to "tens of thousands" of new employees to be hired to handle the new planned growth coming. Also he states we will grow to 1000 plus aircraft in the near future (I believe by 2024).
I never ONCE said those would be or were all AMT's. You really need to learn how to comprehend what is posted and what you read. You are so easy dude, you look pathetic.

Oh in other words you’re now clearing up that AMFA at SWA will not be growing and it will be all other groups instead. That makes much more sense.