Company Proposal To Mechanic And Related

[USA320Pilot]

The reason the "ask" has increased is primarily due to the price of oil. The company must meet ATSB and other creditor requirements to emerge from bankruptcy.

In addition, in bankruptcy the company is experiencing revenue deterioration due to passengers "booking away" and further costs associated with bankruptcy litigation, which the unions continue to create by opposing the company's motions.

Do I like this? Of course not. But it's reality.

In regard to each union concession I believe it's an apple and oranges comparison. The company is comparing US Airways' work groups against the LCC's in five categories: pay, seniority, benefits, retirement, and work rules. A cost cut target was set and each work group can adjust their concession in each area, as long as the total figure is obtained.

Respectfully,

USA320Pilot

 

[UNC HUSKER]

Planejane:

For every employee group the company is seeking productivity changes, which will provide an employee the opportuity to limit their gross pay loss, if desired. This is a key component of the "Transformation Plan" so the company can maximize its revenue opportunity with expanded utilization of all of its assets, including aircraft, facilities, and human resources.

It's my understanding the company's proposal provides the IAM-M with a pay and benefit expense higher than JetBlue and AirTran but below Southwest.

Regards,

USA320Pilot

[post="195180"][/post]​

What about fleet and cwa the front line ? This makes sence? We are the ones that are going to take the biggest hit. Pay and benifit wise. Can you make sence of this for me plz.

 

[livingontheedge]

A320,

With all due respect sir, the "booking away" has nothing to do with the employees or the unions. It is not due to your union, or my union or even the nonunion employees. The majority of bad press(besides the filing of bk) has come from the COMPANY. In particular, Bronner and Lakefield.

What company do you know of, besides this one, that passes the increasing cost of fuel to their employees and not the consumer? I pay more to fuel up my car at the gaspump, I pay more for my gas and electric bill, I pay more at the grocery store, etc.,etc. The employees of those companies are not asked to take a pay cut to offset fuel costs. Do I like paying more? No, of course not, but I understand why, and I'm sure our customers would too.

FYI, international fuel surcharge was increased from $16.00 to $50.00.

Respectfully,

Living on the edge....

 

[livingontheedge]

A320,

With all due respect sir, do you honestly believe the cost of fuel should be passed on to only select employee groups?

I believe you to be an intelligent man and would be quite surprised if you thought this was "fair and equitable" and is the way to return the company to profitibility.

As far as apples to oranges, and getting us inline with the LCC's, my equivalent at Southwest(our major LCC competition) makes a lot more, both in pay and benefits than I do.

Could you help with another equation? How are we being compared across 5 areas(or 2, or 15 for that matter) with LCC's that do not fly international? Isn't that apples to oranges?

Respectfully,

Living on the edge

 

[UNC HUSKER]

one more thing to add , if this is approved and we go to work we will have less mech , utility,and fleet will be doing what we did in 1989 imagine that. MIRROR IMAGE the best of both airlines ,we pay for all the dumba$$ mistakes that were made during the merger. I agree that we need to shore up the lines but we need to do it in a fair way to the employees that remain. Our front line employees are not going to remain here for what they are asking us to do. I love my job and enjoy all the people I work with. I will miss it . I cannot stay for what they are offering. WE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN THE PIEDMOT AIRLINES WORK RULES AND WE WOULD BE KICKING SOUTHWEST AIRLINES BUT RIGHT NOW!Yes the money was great but the attitude was more fun!Will miss you all. We once had a great airline. B)

 

[UNC HUSKER]

My WebpageSorry I just hate the fact that we have run this place into the ground . I do mean we. I will look back at my time with this airline as a PIEDMONT employee #34375
and I will miss it! Watch these clips for a sence of pride that I still work with today! I know that there are a lot more of us out there. Say what you will if you want to be negative but we will always be the Up and Coming Airline! The last word in first Class.


http://www.jetpiedmont.com/commercials/index.php

 

[AP Tech]

For all those supposedly in the know........the money offered to the mechanics was less than that of their Jet Blue counterparts, there is no opportunity to work overtime to make up the difference as with some other work groups. $24.75 top out after I believe 14 yrs with no license, skill or shift differential a bit more than 5.7% Plus the real kicker was if you are laid off and then recalled you start off at the bottom of the pay scale? 320 would you go along with a contract that if you were bumped from you left seat at a base you were not allowed to exercise your senority to left seat at another base? The scope was also modified to say the company has the right to farm out any or all of the work as the please....... :down:

I really cannot see many if any voting for this piece of S***. JUST SHUT THE DOORS AND END IT!!!!!!!!

 

[delldude]

For all those supposedly in the know........the money offered to the mechanics was less than that of their Jet Blue counterparts, there is no opportunity to work overtime to make up the difference as with some other work groups. $24.75 top out after I believe 14 yrs with no license, skill or shift differential a bit more than 5.7% Plus the real kicker was if you are laid off and then recalled you start off at the bottom of the pay scale? 320 would you go along with a contract that if you were bumped from you left seat at a base you were not allowed to exercise your senority to left seat at another base? The scope was also modified to say the company has the right to farm out any or all of the work as the please....... :down:

I really cannot see many if any voting for this piece of S***. JUST SHUT THE DOORS AND END IT!!!!!!!!

[post="195302"][/post]​

well guy...its time for your union to show its best face....time will tell what this union is really made of.
they won't be bringing this back for a vote in its present form....take it to the bank.

 

[mrfish3726]

I am not in the union at F9, but I know that they top out around 30+ an hour after 10 yrs. If USAIR gets what they want, you will be more on par with the commuters for top out pay than any of the LCC'S.

 

[cavalier]

Huh,

I think this is what you were warned about before the Bankruptcy happened.

Might not have been such a smart thing to keep the concession stand closed, now that they have a crowbar to pry it open, eh...?

[post="195130"][/post]​

Now that's funny, but, this whole thing really isn’t funny at all.

I read this garbage and it's plain as day that they want everyone to leave. Holidays to 5 with the term eliminate being the number one used word.....trust me folks, you are smart people, trained, not afraid of work...you CAN do better! For the ones who can I strongly advise retiring ASAP. If this crap goes thru then U will become the bottom tier of undesirable work places.

My Son will soon be starting out at double what mechanics earn with a FULL benefit package and he has ZERO work experience and is only 22. What can I say people except a sincere...Best of Luck to you and God Bless the ones hurting financially that MUST endure this insanity.

 

[Light Years]

[http://www.jetpiedmont.com/commercials/index.php

[post="195301"][/post]​

Thank you for those!

 

[UAL_TECH]

well guy...its time for your union to show its best face....time will tell what this union is really made of.
they won't be bringing this back for a vote in its present form....take it to the bank.

[post="195304"][/post]​

Yea, right...........
Heard this song before..............

Good Luck!!!
B) UT

 

[TDR1502C]

Will there be enough folks thinking they will still be on payroll to vote this in? How many layoffs will this amount to in the mechanic ranks?

 

[GeezLouis]

My WebpageSorry I just hate the fact that we have run this place into the ground . I do mean we. I will look back at my time with this airline as a PIEDMONT employee #34375
and I will miss it! Watch these clips for a sence of pride that I still work with today! I know that there are a lot more of us out there. Say what you will if you want to be negative but we will always be the Up and Coming Airline! The last word in first Class.
http://www.jetpiedmont.com/commercials/index.php

[post="195301"][/post]​

Man, I almost teared up watching those old commercials! How far we have gone....DOWN! You're exactly right, PI owned Florida, most of the Northeast, and was going like gangbusters! Southwest had to have breathed a sigh of relief when Useless took the reigns! If only the shoe would have been on the other foot! Those were the days! Thanks for the memories......

 

[Mike W]

Hey A320,
What are the overtime options when your job has been outsourced? I know you'd be perfectly happy to keep your job while all of the rest of us were kicked to the curb,but Jesus,get a grip.