Combined Travel Rules

[blue collar]

So, it's important to you to be able to possibly deny someone else a seat?

Let's say the agents on your backup flight issued you a seat, called your name a couple times, but then run out of time to reassign it to someone lower on the list when you never respond?..

I've never double checked in- but I usually do list multiple flights. Once checked in, I'll move that pnr to whatever flight will get me where I want to go- that is if it didn't work out on the originally planned route. I still don't see the problem with multiple listings, but you should only check into one of them.

 

[1AA]

I've never double checked in- but I usually do list multiple flights. Once checked in, I'll move that pnr to whatever flight will get me where I want to go- that is if it didn't work out on the originally planned route. I still don't see the problem with multiple listings, but you should only check into one of them.

The problem now with AA on multiple listings is that IT WILL GET YOU TERMINATED.
Just don't do it. Over 80,000 active and retirees have been doing it this way and it works fine. The ones that did not do it this way were dealt with in various degrees of punishment.

 

[AANOTOK]

Having commuted for 17 years coast to coast I can say that it is important to have the option of multipile listing.
 
If 2 flights leaving to 2 different destinations with connections to the same final destination are within a short period of time it can be next to impossible to quickly  list.
 
It has been used at the once hapless US Air/Airways w/o being a problem.
 
Why would it be a problem now?
 
Yes commuting is a choice. US Airways has closed so many bases over the years there is a sizable refugee population.
 
If anyone thinks they will never commute they may want to think again. Just ask anyone from PIT.

I will NEVER commute!

 

[Be Careful What You Wish For.]

Let's say ...

Let's say that you have 2 flights going west - both delayed - next to each other.
 
Which one do you list for?
 
One goes the other eventually gets canceled.
 
Are you forced to gamble on listing on only one?
 
True story.
 
Granted this is just as an obscure example as yours.
 
What would you do?

 

[IORFA]

Hope you guess right.

 

[flyer63]

Let's say that you have 2 flights going west - both delayed - next to each other.
 
Which one do you list for?


 
One goes the other eventually gets canceled.
 
Are you forced to gamble on listing on only one?
 
True story.
 
Granted this is just as an obscure example as yours.
 
What would you do?

Exactly... shows the issues with fcfs.... AA folks just dont want to acknowledge that their system has problems.
As far as getting terminated for multiple listings. I highly doubt that. If it is indeed against the rules. Which no one has shown in writing . Then maybe a talking to. ....

 

[1AA]

Exactly... shows the issues with fcfs.... AA folks just dont want to acknowledge that their system has problems.
As far as getting terminated for multiple listings. I highly doubt that. If it is indeed against the rules. Which no one has shown in writing . Then maybe a talking to. ....

It's in the regs. Don't believe me then go ahead and do it. The system works fine. Get over it and accept it. Over 80,000 of us AAer's have been using it including former America West employee's.

 

[boston]

Pulling needles out of a haystack regarding FCFS is really useless. At the meeting in PHX the employees were all but putting words in DP mouth, and went on and on about not being able to travel at the same pass level as there grandchildren and this was an atrocity. Why the parents of the grandchildren couldn't travel with them, so what's the problem. How many times is your trip delayed so long that 
its coming up on the next flight, second guessing the non-reving , is at time like speeding and getting to the red light at the same time.
 
DOH for everything as it is at US F/A's creates animosity for new-hires and others not so super senior and other work groups. DOH for non-reving, DOH-jump seating, DOH-they can bump a position of another Jr crew member when they pick up the trip,DOH- crew rest time, DOH- for crew rest seats/bunks, DOH- hotel 
sign in, Come on !!!
 
TWA was the same way and they are still fighting the system, even though they are now benifitting.
 
The new hire can still have a life.

 

[boston]

If you are listed on the 1st flight and it gets delayed or canceled you can ask to get placed on the 2nd flight and you go by initial check in 
time.
 
It works and 80,000 of us are good with it.

 

[AANOTOK]

Exactly... shows the issues with fcfs.... AA folks just dont want to acknowledge that their system has problems.
As far as getting terminated for multiple listings. I highly doubt that. If it is indeed against the rules. Which no one has shown in writing . Then maybe a talking to. ....

And the DOH proponents will never acknowledge that seniority allows you to bid your shifts, days off and vacations. Not screw anyone junior at every corner.

 

[blue collar]

I wasn't using my example of multiple listings to say DOH is better than FCFS. I've used both systems, and I prefer FCFS - I think it's a much more fair way of enjoying benefits, (Do we see the ER doc based on DOH? That's another benefit we all have). I'm surprised they would terminate you over multiple listings - after all, they become nothing if you never check in/get added to standby list.

 

[DFWFSC]

I know at DFW they were having problems with nonrevs going to TUL. TUL is always full and always tons of nonrevs, so what is happening is 50+ don't get on the TUL flight as D2s so they delet their TUL PNR/listing and all book the next ICT flight as D1s. The ICT flights were wide open and even had D2/D3s with seats assigned only to have all the D1s show up. Not sure what happened at the gate, but there were calls on the radio to have CSMs stop by and defuse some sort of issue.

 

[eolesen]

I'm surprised they would terminate you over multiple listings - after all, they become nothing if you never check in/get added to standby list.

Don't be. It's one of the few things black & white "Thou shalt not" rules, and when someone blows thru them, there's little worry about the union interfering in the termination because it's contractual.

(I know... all the "this is why you need travel in your contract" trolls will come out of the woodwork now)

 

[boston]

Not sure if I posted the latest in Miami. Rumor has it a new hire had multiple listings on their commute and they  
 
have been terminated. I want to say the commute city was MCO-MIA. And there was just a HI-6 message out about changing D-2-to D1 and D1 to D2 after the flight listings had been initiated. It said this was occurring in ATL and had become a problem.

 

[nycbusdriver]

It's in the regs. 

 
The "regs"?   Really?  Regs?
 
Please, enlighten us as to Title, Section, Paragraph, etc.