Combined Travel Rules

[blue collar]

Not sure why you wouldn't be able to list multiple PNRs, as long as none of them are revenue.. Although I guess it wouldn't help you since you would want to transfer your flights so you held the original check in time? Just didn't know that multiple PNRs was frowned upon.

 

[eolesen]

The whole point of listing is for forecasting catering, airport staffing, and load planning -- list for three flights instead of the one you really want, and in theory, that gets figured in when calculating expected fuel and food/beverage for all three flights. Probably less of an issue when the flight is forecasted to go out full and there's no food offered for free...

Creating multiple bookings also incur transaction charges for the Company -- every time you hit the enter key on Sabre, it costs money. At one point, simple entries in the res & check-in system were 0.001, and End Transaction on a PNR was 0.004 (there's lots of behind-the-scenes processing each and every time you do an ET). Those costs were what we used for planning, and may have changed over time as contracts with Sabre were renegotiated.

 

[john john]

Using your doom and gloom scenario bookended by your whining, if I am not mistaken. When you get rolled over to your beloved PVD flight, your checkin time follows. If you doom and gloomers put a little effort into researching your ridiculous worries, then you might actually understand the system. For all the dumb questions you guys worry about makes me think it will be years before you figure it out and the rest of us will do quite well in that system! It sounds like you might be better served buying an AA20! I'm not sure you'll understand what that is either.

A agent can rolled one person from BOS to PVD and kept the same check-in time
YOU SURE ABOUT THAT

 

[jimntx]

Yes.  I've done it.  There is the issue that if you get a b*tch of an agent who considers non-revs to be his/her cross to bear (not that many, but they do exist), they may tell you they can't do it when the reality is that they don't want to do it.  It does take a few keystrokes on their part.  I just went to a different agent who didn't appear to be busy or mean.  LOL

 

[bob@las-AA]

Not sure why you wouldn't be able to list multiple PNRs, as long as none of them are revenue.. Although I guess it wouldn't help you since you would want to transfer your flights so you held the original check in time? Just didn't know that multiple PNRs was frowned upon.

multiple PNRs, at the any time for the same person is a big no-no! Lets say I start my trip in LAS to ROC, I know I have to make a conx in ORD.
I also know I have a LAX , DFW, MIA and a host of others citys I can make it out on, I can only list your self for one, you dont get to list for all trips out of LAS with multiple PNRs to better your chances of getting out. That is something you can get fired for.

 

[john john]

To be clear on this you can change origination and/or destination and still kept your time stamp.(more agent work) I was told this was a NO NO. as well as listing on more than one flight

 

[flyer63]

Well this is clear as mud... Here at us you can make as many pnr,s as you want but only check in for one flight at a time..

 

[eolesen]

A agent can rolled one person from BOS to PVD and kept the same check-in time
YOU SURE ABOUT THAT

Positive.

I wrote the policy for agents when this functionality was added to Sabre in 1994.

I forget the actual command line, but I remember after pulling up a priority list with G*L0/P you'd do a GT with the line number(s) from the priority list, and flight number you were transferring to (don't remember which order all that went in..)

 

[john john]

I remember the go transfer entry GT wasn’t sure that the ticket would associate with different changed origination and/or destination.You do know parker is going to dumb down sabre

 

[blue collar]

Well this is clear as mud... Here at us you can make as many pnr,s as you want but only check in for one flight at a time..

Yeah, I didn't know that listing non rev cost anything. I didn't know that they even factored on you making the flight. Back when I worked at AA, I only really needed one pnr- back then you could make just about any flight. Nowadays, multiple PNRs seems the way to get somewhere.. You just list for everything when looking and when they day comes, just check in to the best looking option.

 

[NAPAUS]

Hi Everyone,
 Been a few years since I took "early retirement". Sure do miss my airline family...
 
Ok to the point, what are the new combined non-rev travel rules? Can't seem to find them. I already know about "first come first serve" but don't know any other specifics. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Oh and btw, I flew for 25 years, moved on to a new career and I work full-time +, so just to add my two cents, I have limited amt of time to travel, blah, blah, blah.
 
Thanks and safe flying!

 

[eolesen]

I remember the go transfer entry GT wasn’t sure that the ticket would associate with different changed origination and/or destination.You do know parker is going to dumb down sabre

There is no e-ticket to reassociate with company nonrevs.

I doubt Maya will allow Parker to start messing with Sabre, since it isn't AA's exclusive domain to mess with...

Start taking the alternate destination functions away, and you seriously screw up disruption handling and revenue standby handling for co-terminal markets.

 

[jimntx]

I've never found it necessary to create multiple PNRs for travel for the same day.  But, I can see where it wouldn't really matter to the system.  Remember that the seat is not taken out of inventory until you have been issued a boarding pass and you board the flight.  And, as E said, with food in coach being of the "for sale" variety, there are no catering issues.  (For F/C, the company just assumes full every leg and caters accordingly.  Part of this was I think they got tired of delayed departures when they had catered to the known load (say 12 of 16 seats) then have to wait for the caterer to bring additional meals when the load went over that.  And, paying for those meals to be available at a central point in the terminal.  The catering company is usually too far to bring them from their operation.)

 

[Be Careful What You Wish For.]

I've never found it necessary to create multiple PNRs for travel for the same day.  But, I can see where it wouldn't really matter to the system.

Having commuted for 17 years coast to coast I can say that it is important to have the option of multipile listing.
 
If 2 flights leaving to 2 different destinations with connections to the same final destination are within a short period of time it can be next to impossible to quickly  list.
 
It has been used at the once hapless US Air/Airways w/o being a problem.
 
Why would it be a problem now?
 
Yes commuting is a choice. US Airways has closed so many bases over the years there is a sizable refugee population.
 
If anyone thinks they will never commute they may want to think again. Just ask anyone from PIT.

 

[eolesen]

So, it's important to you to be able to possibly deny someone else a seat?

Let's say the agents on your backup flight issued you a seat, called your name a couple times, but then run out of time to reassign it to someone lower on the list when you never respond?..