Combined Travel Rules

[AirLUVer]

Board any employee groups by DOH after those employee groups that are FCFS.
 
Board all of the D1T's that are on the list by check in time, and then board the D1T's that are on the list by DOH order.
Then Board all the D1's that are on the list by check in time, and then board the D1's that are on the list by seniority date in DOH order.
Then board all of the D2T's that are on the list by check in time, and then board the D2T's that are on the list by seniority date. and so on and so forth...

 

[AirLUVer]

Ok Genius,
 
Explain to the board how thats gonna work.
 
And people work for US and people work for AA, the companies are both owned by the American Airlines Group, so no, US employees dont work for AA, they work for US Airways and the US CBAs will be honored until there is a JCBA.

Give every employee a travelling DOH as of the date of the merger or their actual hire date which ever is most recent.  Then go by check in time for those that have the same hire date.

 

[700UW]

What you still dont get its a violation of several CBAs at US.
 
They have been to third step and arbitration in the past, and the unions won, do you realize that those awards are precedent setting.
 
And what you propose is a CBA violation, you cant give everyone a new DOH when it has been established all ready.

 

[johnny kat]

700UW is right.  This will have to be dealt with in a sane manner.  Does anyone know what percentage of the current AA employees commute compared to the current US employees?  My quess is that US has tons more that commute and this is going to make the handling of this very important to the success of the new AA.  Say what you want about this being a privilege and the employees choose to commute and it is your responsibility to get to work blah blah blah.....the reality of this situation is that if not handled correctly and US flight crews can't get to work it will be costly for the employees as well as the company and who is the winner in that?

 

[Crash Pad DCA]

 

[johnny kat]

Crash pad, a picture is worth a thousand words.  And your post pretty well sums it up...the meaning of the new AA is airlines of America. LOL 

 

[1AA]

700UW is right.  This will have to be dealt with in a sane manner.  Does anyone know what percentage of the current AA employees commute compared to the current US employees?  My quess is that US has tons more that commute and this is going to make the handling of this very important to the success of the new AA.  Say what you want about this being a privilege and the employees choose to commute and it is your responsibility to get to work blah blah blah.....the reality of this situation is that if not handled correctly and US flight crews can't get to work it will be costly for the employees as well as the company and who is the winner in that?

. And aaers do not commute? We at aa have been commuting for years under our current system. No major issues. And what does commuting have to do with doh or fcfs as far as non revving on personal travel?

 

[johnny kat]

1AA, good point.  I mean no disrespect to any AAer but as you can tell there is a lot of anxiety on the US side over FCFS. 
 
Who knows how the grievence will be handled for the contract violation of the AFA agreement.  All I am saying is that allowances will have to be made to accomodate the learning curve for the US folks regarding FCFS.  And I am really hoping there will not be any major issues because we all need to get to work.

 

[lpbrian]

No, we don't all need to get to work. If you can't get to work than make changes in your situation. Or make alternate arrangements.

 

[johnny kat]

YES, IbPRICK..we all do need to get to work.  I don't know what side of snit planet you are from but that pissy attitude of yours will certainly not be conducive to a good environment at work for you. 
 
I don't need the likes of you to tell me what I need to do in my own personal situation, thank you very much.  You can be rest assured that I will arrive on time irregardless of how it happened.  What you are failing to understand is that this issue is a very important one for a lot of people.  So get over yourself Hitler!  

 

[jimntx]

"Who knows how the grievence will be handled for the contract violation of the AFA agreement."
 
Seems to me that since the LCC members of AFA will be APFA members shortly, violations of an AFA agreement will be moot.

 

[700UW]

Wrong.
 
The US FAs will still be working under their CBA until a joint CBA is negotiated and approved, because you change unions, doesnt mean your CBA goes away.
 
Both East and West FAs have precedent setting grievances that cant be ignored, when a grievance goes to third step and beyond its precedent setting.

 

[MCI transplant]

This is one area where the transition went relatively well with the TWA/AA deal. TWA's system was like US, based on seniority.------- Oh we had our issues! Just not this one! -------- Just don't screw it up for everyone!!!!

 

[Crash Pad DCA]

This is one area where the transition went relatively well with the TWA/AA deal. TWA's system was like US, based on seniority.------- Oh we had our issues! Just not this one! -------- Just don't screw it up for everyone!!!!

http://www.tarpa.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3651
Dear Ms. Lynn,

I write to you today to discuss the situation at American regarding TWA retirees and passes as, subject to the obvious delay, you plan for this exciting merger. As you know, TWA retirees board flights behind all other AA employees, AA retirees, even guests on buddy passes (which TWA retirees cannot offer). This has been a huge frustration for us… so many times being denied boarding due to "buddy passes" having priority over us … many of us with 30-40 plus years of faithful service to TWA, an airline American felt worthy of acquiring....

 

[dfw gen]

How do you put someone on ignore? Between 700 and josh don't know which is more annoying. Thank goodness world traveler is quiet these days. ...