Challenge To Delle

[twuer]

Mr Delle-Femine has officailly been challenged to debate Mr. Jim Little in Tulsa. There has been some talk from amfa supporters that amfa really has nothing to gain or lose by accepting this challenge.

So, the question of the day is, in your opinion, will Delle accept or decline???


Poll left open for replies but try to keep on the subject of the poll please!!

 

[Raptor]

Delle has already declined to debate on April 21 so there is no reason to continue this poll.

 

[twuer]

Delle has already declined to debate on April 21 so there is no reason to continue this poll.

Looks like the NO's have it!!!!!

So any opinions on that???

Here's mine. . .
HE'S SCARED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[High Speed Steel]

You mean the Great and Powerful "Delle" will not show..? He refuses to be, Oh how shall I put this...? Oh yeah, " ACCOUNTABLE "......!!!!!!

It is obvious that Delle must live on that dead end, ONE-WAY Street, named Accountability Lane....! What a Joke of an ASSOCIATION....!

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AMFA: The YUGO of the labor movement
Where bargaining means YOU GO....!

 

[Raptor]

TWUer I have decided to keep my opinions to myself on this issue for the most part but I am very curious about what everyone else thinks on this subject.

I will say that I think that if either side really wanted to debate each other that there would in fact be a debate, you have to wonder why both sides keep coming up with excuses <_<

Something to think about boys. :unsure:

 

[Checking it Out]

Well, I am confident, when delle announced he was not interested in a debate with the TWU! He lost a good portion of members who may have voted for Amfa if an election was ever held!

Keep up the great job! Delle is the best absent spoke person to assure members will be turned off with Amfa!!!!!

 

[Hackman]

TWUer I have decided to keep my opinions to myself on this issue for the most part but I am very curious about what everyone else thinks on this subject.

I will say that I think that if either side really wanted to debate each other that there would in fact be a debate, you have to wonder why both sides keep coming up with excuses <_<

Something to think about boys. :unsure:

Delle will show to a LEGITIMATE debate. One with the a stacked deck, like this farce the twu wants, is not a reason to bother with it.

Another twu farce? NO! How about this:

1. This is an AA Mechanic and related dispute ONLY. The twu will try to get paid persons with NO say in this vote to harass and heckle. The stock clecks. rampers, the ibt, and paid iam fools like Brian Conners or Dutch Dresher have no say in this. Its AA mechanic and related only. Anyone else's opinions, feelings, gripes, bitches, complaints, or comments have NO bearing on this debate. If the twu can't get enough support from the M@R, too bad.

2. A venue big enough that everyone can attend. The twu wants to cram the room with any twu dupe they can get. That way, AMFA can't be fairly represented.

3. Its on a weekend so people with no vacation and not on twu UB can attend. 80% of AA's workforce is off on weekends. Thanks to the twu, our limited vacation is for family time, not for a twu farce debate on tues or wed.

4. The moderator will be agreed on by both AMFA and the twu. Why should the twu get to choose the moderator and pay him off to be on the twu's side? No way.

5. Why just Tulsa? Why not a debate at DFW? Or ORD? Or JFK? Easier cities to fly to from around the system.

6. No signs, no coffins, no heckling during the debate. Try it and your out.

7. Sunny Hall will come. He's the dictator of the twu. If Delle can make it, so can he.


These are my own opinion's. If the twu wants to have any kind of legitimacy, then lets have a fair debate, not the twu's twisted mockery of a very important event.
The twu International had the chance to be in Tulsa in January. They declined. Why the change in tactics now? What is Sunny scared of?

 

[Stop the Bus..I Want Off!!]

AMFA national will debate with anyone the twu wants to bring. Two weeks before we get our election ballots, the debate will happen. I know the twu cares about membership "participation" so I'm sure having it on the weekend and in a place that will accomidate a few thousand people will not be an issue. I also know the twu wants to debate the AMFA nantional badly so I'm sure they'll jump at the chance when the time/place is proposed by AMFA national.
It will be a great justice to see Jim Little debate the AMFA infront of the membership.

Keep the Faith....VOTE AMFA!!!!!!!!!

 

[Raptor]

Really

AMFA national will debate with anyone the twu wants to bring. Two weeks before we get our election ballots, the debate will happen. I know the twu cares about membership "participation" so I'm sure having it on the weekend and in a place that will accomidate a few thousand people will not be an issue. I also know the twu wants to debate the AMFA nantional badly so I'm sure they'll jump at the chance when the time/place is proposed by AMFA national.
It will be a great justice to see Jim Little debate the AMFA infront of the membership.

Keep the Faith....VOTE AMFA!!!!!!!!!

would you care to put any money on that like say 100 bills, there will never be a debate that much you can count on, Delle and Jim Little don't want one it is only the membership that wants one and I don't think they really care what we want.
Just my opinion ( but as usuall I am right on this ) Sorry

I have another prediction there will be less members at meetings of both Unions
most people have already made up their minds and are tired of the meetings.
watch and see.

 

[Rusty]

Delle said wait until we are sure there is going to be an election, not that he refuses to debate. There is no doubt he is chomping at the bit to debate but, patience is a virtue. The time will be right when the NMB says it is time to vote. This is very smart move and will keep the issues freshly in the minds of the voters. Why have a debate so early, whats the hurry??? Could it be the twu knows we are very busy and would like to distract our work with the card challenge or could it be the twu wants some video footage that they can manipulate??? Either way the twu's underhandedness never ends and is just another reason the membership is giving them the boot!!!

 

[Raptor]

Delle said wait until we are sure there is going to be an election, not that he refuses to debate. There is no doubt he is chomping at the bit to debate but, patience is a virtue. The time will be right when the NMB says it is time to vote. This is very smart move and will keep the issues freshly in the minds of the voters. Why have a debate so early, whats the hurry??? Could it be the twu knows we are very busy and would like to distract our work with the card challenge or could it be the twu wants some video footage that they can manipulate??? Either way the twu's underhandedness never ends and is just another reason the membership is giving them the boot!!!

seems like I heard the statement of why so early back in January, when Delle challenged Sonny Hall to a debate, I think it was the TWU and Jim Little that made it.

I guess it wasn't early then but it is now. hmmm <_<

I am thinking of starting a pool on how many more challenges will be made and turned down from both sides before the vote takes place.

What do you guys think anybody interested in the debate pool

Does anyone find it interesting that everyone seems to have a reason why they will not accept a debate challenge or is that just me. :unsure:

 

[Decision 2004]

seems like I heard the statement of why so early back in January, when Delle challenged Sonny Hall to a debate, I think it was the TWU and Jim Little that made it.

I guess it wasn't early then but it is now. hmmm <_<

That is not the way I remember the TWU's or Little's response.

Do you have some documentation that could refresh my memory?

The way I remember it, the challenge was addressed to Sonny Hall, who forwarded it to Little, and then Little refused to debate on the grounds that the rank-n-file members should debate since the decision would be theirs to make.

Feel free to show ANY documentation that will correct my recollection of the events.

If you would slow down a little, and have some patience instead of pinging off the walls as usual, you might find the end result will meet your satisfaction.

 

[Raptor]

The way I remember it, the challenge was addressed to Sonny Hall, who forwarded it to Little, and then Little refused to debate on the grounds that the rank-n-file members should debate since the decision would be theirs to make.

Feel free to show ANY documentation that will correct my recollection of the events.

They said it I seen it and heard it myself, don't have any documentation you as usual are free to believe whatever you wish.

I do not feel that I am pinging of off any walls actually I am being quite docile at the moment and I already know what is going to happen as usual.

I can't be anybody's puppet, I call em like I see em.
ya hear that TWU guys I am an AMFA supporter but no puppet here.

Raptor is the name calling them like I see them is my game, hey that might be a good signature for me.

 

[Raptor]

Ping Ping Ping




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Well it's been fun guys but it bedtime for me I thought I would ping the walls one last time before bed.
Got to get my sleep all this pinging is hard work.

Raptor is the name calling it like I see it is my game.

Remember guys Decision 2004 says the end justifies the means so leave those Conscience's at the door. :unsure:

 

[Rusty]

seems like I heard the statement of why so early back in January, when Delle challenged Sonny Hall to a debate, I think it was the TWU and Jim Little that made it.

They said it I seen it and heard it myself, don't have any documentation you as usual are free to believe whatever you wish.

Raptor, you went from "seems" to an absolute. Not saying it didn't happen, I just do not recall it either. Best of luck finding a document.