Bye bye Tulsa

[OldGuy@AA]

No thats the result of the "Juniority system". No Union has the ability to tell the company where and when they have a reduction in force, but most make sure their senior workers do not get screwed like they do at AA and end up where the Junior workers are instead of where their seniority should let them. Here, thanks to our contract the company essentially gets to pick where guys end up, by staggering the RIFs they can force the senior guys to go to undesirable locations. Thats what happened then. If you could bump by seniority there may be more bouncing around but senior people who are laid off get to pick where they want to go instead of where the junior man is.

BTW 514 has less AMTs than the line, around 500 less, the cleaners and OSMs help Tulsa maintain a 300 Title I
member lead but it wont be long till the line has more Title I than Tulsa. If the 314 number is accurate Local 591 may not only have 500 more AMTs than Tulsa, they will have more Title I members in total.

Unfortunately many of the OSMs you mentioned are licensed A&P mechanics who were forced into OSM positions while losing their license pay with this wonder contract. You want to talk about some bitter people? Many of these guys voted no on the contract too. I feel terrible for these guys. I don't feel a bit bad about the ones who voted yes. They got what they voted for. They are doing the same job for $5 an hour less than they were getting. Do you know anyone in management who took a pay cut with this deal? Of course not. They all got raises. How do these people look at themselves in the mirror?

 

[Topcat187]

The junioity system has been there forever.

I have to agree, While its unfortunate when anyone gets laid off. Generally speaking, if its working in your favor, you're OK with the way it works. If you're the guy getting the pink slip, the first thing you say is that its not fair.
I bet theirs guys who have been shielded from a bump under the current juniority method, that are now are getting bumped and think its not right all of the sudden.

 

[BigMac]

http://twu514.org/blog/2013/09/17/2014-surplus/

 

[BigMac]

On Monday September 16, 2013, Bill Collins and his staff met with the Local TWU officers, Chairman, and E-board to review the workload for 2014 and 2015.

The speculation that a merger with USAir ways would keep the Tulsa base at 90% capacity for two years was information not known to AA management. International President Jim Little presented this information to our membership when he visited Tulsa, however to our knowledge this is not enforceable per our current language.

As we went through the presentation, the company information showed we should prepare for a surplus of no more than 400 positions around the first quarter of 2014. This surplus would likely include all title groups. In addition, they are planning to give the airline additional aircraft for the peak summer flying months, which would create a temporary surplus during the summer of 2014. We did discuss some options to address the summer surplus, such as allowing more vacation use during the summer.

In regard to the surplus, we discussed the SIS (stand-in-stead) program, which may allow employees to sign up for government retraining through the TAA (Trade Adjustment Assistance) program. As many of you are aware, as the older fleets are retired and new aircraft are brought on board, we are faced with the challenge of dealing with the required maintenance need declining year over year.

As your new local leadership, we are doing everything in our power to persuade the company to source work in-house rather than continue to source it out. As this goes to print, we currently have a team made up of management and TWU working to bring the B767 Retro/NGS work to Tulsa. This work would begin in March of 2014 and is projected to run through June of 2015.

In Solidarity,

Dale Danker

 

[AA Tulsa Mechanic]

Terrific

 

[swamt]

Pulled from TWU release above: " we should prepare for a surplus of no more than 400 positions around the first quarter of 2014."

What a wide open statement. Didn't know this was going to start in 2014, and by 2017 isn't Tulsa going to be cut by 65% headcount? How much more are you guys going to take?

 

[jimntx]

No doubt, if the layoffs are only 399, the TWU will have a press release showing how their efforts kept the layoffs to a minimum.

 

[dfw gen]

On Monday September 16, 2013, Bill Collins and his staff met with the Local TWU officers, Chairman, and E-board to review the workload for 2014 and 2015.

The speculation that a merger with USAir ways would keep the Tulsa base at 90% capacity for two years was information not known to AA management. International President Jim Little presented this information to our membership when he visited Tulsa, however to our knowledge this is not enforceable per our current language.

As we went through the presentation, the company information showed we should prepare for a surplus of no more than 400 positions around the first quarter of 2014. This surplus would likely include all title groups. In addition, they are planning to give the airline additional aircraft for the peak summer flying months, which would create a temporary surplus during the summer of 2014. We did discuss some options to address the summer surplus, such as allowing more vacation use during the summer.

In regard to the surplus, we discussed the SIS (stand-in-stead) program, which may allow employees to sign up for government retraining through the TAA (Trade Adjustment Assistance) program. As many of you are aware, as the older fleets are retired and new aircraft are brought on board, we are faced with the challenge of dealing with the required maintenance need declining year over year.

As your new local leadership, we are doing everything in our power to persuade the company to source work in-house rather than continue to source it out. As this goes to print, we currently have a team made up of management and TWU working to bring the B767 Retro/NGS work to Tulsa. This work would begin in March of 2014 and is projected to run through June of 2015.

In Solidarity,

Dale Danker

the best part is how the twu told EVERYONE how it was going to save tulsa. except for management. when you have an agreement aren't both parties supposed to know about it?

 

[2ndGENAMT]

International President Jim Little presented this information to our membership when he visited Tulsa, however to our knowledge this is not enforceable per our current language


Classic TWU representation!!

 

[TWU informer]

The Line AMT's spent heavey resources to try to inform the Tulsa AMT's the truth about what was coming. Once again, many in Tulsa chose to listen to Local Leader Liars. This same scenario plays out over and over, and yet the majority in Tulsa still don't listen or stand. The truth is coming and it will be painful.

 

[MCI transplant]

First they close MCIE, next AFW, now they are targeting TUL! ------ Hmmm! --- Do you see a pattern here?

 

[1AA]

Yes I see the pattern. Bye, bye, Tulsa. Vote yes and save our jobs. Really?????

 

[bigjets]

I like how the TWU says we are trying to minimize layoffs with more vacation time in the summer. Ill see you TUL guys in LAX this summer. Be prepared for 2 hour commute if you want to keep your kids out of the gang areas.

 

[Flying low]

On Monday September 16, 2013, Bill Collins and his staff met with the Local TWU officers, Chairman, and E-board to review the workload for 2014 and 2015.

The speculation that a merger with USAir ways would keep the Tulsa base at 90% capacity for two years was information not known to AA management. International President Jim Little presented this information to our membership when he visited Tulsa, however to our knowledge this is not enforceable per our current

In my opinion, that was just a story told by Parker to win the approval of the Tulsa AMT's. something I never believed.

 

[TWU informer]

In my opinion, that was just a story told by Parker to win the approval of the Tulsa AMT's. something I never believed.

What if the whole merger talk was to get the Unions to concessions and they lose the trial purposely to cover it up? Dont they then get their stand alone plan with concessions they wanted to begin with?