767jetz
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AAviator said:His Desperate ICT?
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Speaking of ICT's, Make sure you see my post in US Airways Poetry Corner.
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Speaking of ICT's, Make sure you see my post in US Airways Poetry Corner.
USA320Pilot
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767jetz:
Your poetry is "cute", but to bad it's not reality. As I said before United executives left Crystal City a few weeks ago extremely upset because US Airways' Board and "executive suite" spurned United's request for another attempt at a corporate transaction.
United wanted David Bronner to help the Chicago-based airline get out of bankruptcy and apparently US Airways now has no interest in United deal, unless things change.
Maybe the fact that the PBGC - UAL pension agreement violates the pilots contract, the UAL AFA is threatening to terminate their contract over management financial gains, United has filed a S.1113(e) motion against the AFA, United has filed a S.1113© motion against the IAM, AMFA, and the AFA, the company has about $800 million in additional annual fuel expenses, United has no exit financing in place, United has been unable to articulate a POR in 2.5 years, and an America West - US Airways merger will cost United hundreds of millions of dollars in lost code share revenue, which will require the Chicago-based carrier to seek even deeper cuts. Moreover, there are credible Wall Street and National news media sources who believe United could liquidate and be "carved up" this year.
Nonetheless, we should know more soon when the pension hearing convenes on May 4 and the trial begins to throw out the IAM, AMFA, and AFA contracts begins on May 11.
Meanwhile, this message board is about US Airways, but whenever Untied is mentioned as a potential suitor you come out of the wooodwork. How can that be?
By the way, is it better to fly an A320 in a merged on-going company or a widebody for a company that could liquidate? US Airways could liquidate too, but I have made over $500,000 more in my 20 years at US Airways than I would have at United. Who is better off?
What I find interesting is that you "shoot from the hip", are clearly uninformed, insult people, and only visit the US Airways board when United is mentioned. Why don't you talk about these issues on the United board instead of visiting the US Airways board?
Finally, everything I have said has been true. I never said a deal would be completed between the companies. I indicated that discussions were happening as David Bronner, Dave Siegel, and others have publicly said. Did you miss that too?
Best regards,
USA320Pilot
Your poetry is "cute", but to bad it's not reality. As I said before United executives left Crystal City a few weeks ago extremely upset because US Airways' Board and "executive suite" spurned United's request for another attempt at a corporate transaction.
United wanted David Bronner to help the Chicago-based airline get out of bankruptcy and apparently US Airways now has no interest in United deal, unless things change.
Maybe the fact that the PBGC - UAL pension agreement violates the pilots contract, the UAL AFA is threatening to terminate their contract over management financial gains, United has filed a S.1113(e) motion against the AFA, United has filed a S.1113© motion against the IAM, AMFA, and the AFA, the company has about $800 million in additional annual fuel expenses, United has no exit financing in place, United has been unable to articulate a POR in 2.5 years, and an America West - US Airways merger will cost United hundreds of millions of dollars in lost code share revenue, which will require the Chicago-based carrier to seek even deeper cuts. Moreover, there are credible Wall Street and National news media sources who believe United could liquidate and be "carved up" this year.
Nonetheless, we should know more soon when the pension hearing convenes on May 4 and the trial begins to throw out the IAM, AMFA, and AFA contracts begins on May 11.
Meanwhile, this message board is about US Airways, but whenever Untied is mentioned as a potential suitor you come out of the wooodwork. How can that be?
By the way, is it better to fly an A320 in a merged on-going company or a widebody for a company that could liquidate? US Airways could liquidate too, but I have made over $500,000 more in my 20 years at US Airways than I would have at United. Who is better off?
What I find interesting is that you "shoot from the hip", are clearly uninformed, insult people, and only visit the US Airways board when United is mentioned. Why don't you talk about these issues on the United board instead of visiting the US Airways board?
Finally, everything I have said has been true. I never said a deal would be completed between the companies. I indicated that discussions were happening as David Bronner, Dave Siegel, and others have publicly said. Did you miss that too?
Best regards,
USA320Pilot
767jetz
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USA320Pilot said:
Aaaaawwwwe! Poor 320. Did I hit a nerve and make you cry???
With that long blabbering post of yours there must have been some truth in my words. If not, why even respond?
Lighten up Francis!
That post was on a thread about US Air poetry, therefore completely appropriate. Everyone but you was having fun.You just can't stand being the laghing stock of your peers. Yes... that's right. People are laughing AT you now. How pathetic.
But then again, it's no surprise. People like you generally don't understand humor.
And I just love the quote above. Typical 320pilot. Throw out a bunch of misinformation, spin it as hard as you can, with no proof except news clips from others as clueless as yourself(kind of like a mutual admiration society of buffoons), and then claim it's true unless something changes!
So basically you're saying the coin flip will be heads, unless it is tails!
And you wonder why people laugh at you?? Unbelievable. :blink:
USA320Pilot
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767jetz:
With all due respect, you did not hit a nerve, however, I wanted to correct your inaccurate statements (again). Your posts are misleading and untrue for some reason you feel the need, which is probably therapeutic; to come over to the US airways board and make unfounded claims because you do not like what you read. You can continue to deny what I write, which is then supported in the press, but reality is about to smack you right in the face. Instead it might be better to not live in denial and to move forward.
Best regards,
USA320Pilot
With all due respect, you did not hit a nerve, however, I wanted to correct your inaccurate statements (again). Your posts are misleading and untrue for some reason you feel the need, which is probably therapeutic; to come over to the US airways board and make unfounded claims because you do not like what you read. You can continue to deny what I write, which is then supported in the press, but reality is about to smack you right in the face. Instead it might be better to not live in denial and to move forward.
Best regards,
USA320Pilot
USA320Pilot said:
Where are YOUR "credible" news links? Why do you use "quotations" on things YOU say? Did your mother pick you up enough as a kid? Did she drop you? "carved up", "executive suite", "cute", "spurned", "retard"
You worked at UNITED dude, and you still can't spell it! Do you think that is clever when you type it like that? or are you just that slow? Does US know you can't spell? Do people trade out of trips a lot when they see you on their line?
767jetz
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USA320Pilot said:
Hmmm, let's see... Inaccurate statements in a poem. So if I got this straight, a post that everyone else thought was HILLARIOUS, you took as some serious statement about US Air. Now who looks like the village idiot??? :blink:
The only truths were that it painted a very accurate picture of your personality, and you don't like the fact that around here people are now laughing AT you.
That's right my friend... you are the laughing stock of this forum.USA320Pilot said:
How does a person deny things that are so unfounded and ridiculous? So where exactly are those news reports of UA liquidating?? Oh that's right... You also said we would emerge but not intact. So which is it? Emerge or liquidate? Hmmmm... Got some names or valid sources of people other than self proclaimed analysts like yourself? No? Well then there's nothing to deny now, is there?
USA320Pilot said:
Well gee... forgive me if I don't hold my breath waiting. Because although it's been a very tough few years in the industry, my future and reality look pretty bright. (Here's a hint, unlike you I don't hang my entire persona on this job or the number of stripes on my shoulder.) People in the know (and that's not you) believe UA is on track to emerge in the fall. I know that really burns your keester. Especially since you are hitching your wagon to an airline with no widebodies. But don't shoot the messenger.
Why do you even bother posting your cr@p when almost no one around here believes you?
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"Homes have been broken and lives have been changed," Siegel said. As a group, the remaining employees "are sort of like a cancer survivor. They have been through so much hell, they deserve to live and have some success."
This statment makes me howl....
I have so many e-mails from this guy that say the exact opposite. B)
He use to tell me over and over again that his execs could find jobs anywhere making much more, but he dare say that of the rank and file.
This statment makes me howl....
I have so many e-mails from this guy that say the exact opposite. B)
He use to tell me over and over again that his execs could find jobs anywhere making much more, but he dare say that of the rank and file.
767jetz
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Well, it’s official folks. And just remember that I said it first here.
Yes, Southwest is planning a Low Cost Corporate Transaction (That’s LCCT for those of you slow on the uptake). The following is a quote from the USA Today article detailing an interview with the CEO of SW:
“Southwest Airlines CEO Gary Kelly, sitting in one of the airline’s 737-300 jets, says that if US Airways goes up for sale, Southwest would be interested in acquiring assets…â€
767jetz adds: Similarly, David Bronner expressed interest in acquiring UA assets several times, which was obviously true right up until the point that it wasn’t. :blink:
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Strategic Analysis:
Since Mr. Kelly has now publicly revealed his interest in pursuing such a deal with US Air, we can obviously extrapolate that this deal has been in the works for an “undisclosed†period of time and his admission of interest is proof of what I have know all along.
Reliable sources tell me that the timing of the SW move on Philadelphia was because an LCCT was "imminent." Several well respected insiders on Wall Street have been saying that the America West deal was basically a smoke screen to hide Kelly’s next move.
Additionally, fuel costs are “killing†US Air, and with their 1st quarter loss even greater than last year, I understand that US Air’s exit from bankruptcy is now seriously in doubt.
There are also reports of Mr. Kelly being "interested" in returning all of US Air’s 737s to service and mothballing the Airbus fleet. With US in bankruptcy, pilots will have to give up any contractual rights. It is my understanding that Mr. Kelley intends to furlough all the Airbus captains out of seniority and return anyone who has 737 experience. (When would NOW be a good time to bid back to the 737?)
Will this actually happen? IMO, I think Yes, unless it doesn’t. But please don’t shoot the messenger.
Yes, Southwest is planning a Low Cost Corporate Transaction (That’s LCCT for those of you slow on the uptake). The following is a quote from the USA Today article detailing an interview with the CEO of SW:
“Southwest Airlines CEO Gary Kelly, sitting in one of the airline’s 737-300 jets, says that if US Airways goes up for sale, Southwest would be interested in acquiring assets…â€
767jetz adds: Similarly, David Bronner expressed interest in acquiring UA assets several times, which was obviously true right up until the point that it wasn’t. :blink:
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Strategic Analysis:
Since Mr. Kelly has now publicly revealed his interest in pursuing such a deal with US Air, we can obviously extrapolate that this deal has been in the works for an “undisclosed†period of time and his admission of interest is proof of what I have know all along.
Reliable sources tell me that the timing of the SW move on Philadelphia was because an LCCT was "imminent." Several well respected insiders on Wall Street have been saying that the America West deal was basically a smoke screen to hide Kelly’s next move.
Additionally, fuel costs are “killing†US Air, and with their 1st quarter loss even greater than last year, I understand that US Air’s exit from bankruptcy is now seriously in doubt.
There are also reports of Mr. Kelly being "interested" in returning all of US Air’s 737s to service and mothballing the Airbus fleet. With US in bankruptcy, pilots will have to give up any contractual rights. It is my understanding that Mr. Kelley intends to furlough all the Airbus captains out of seniority and return anyone who has 737 experience. (When would NOW be a good time to bid back to the 737?)
Will this actually happen? IMO, I think Yes, unless it doesn’t. But please don’t shoot the messenger.
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Classic. Absolutely classic.
(the out of seniority furlough stuff was the kicker. laughed myself silly.)
(the out of seniority furlough stuff was the kicker. laughed myself silly.)
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PITbull said:"Homes have been broken and lives have been changed," Siegel said. As a group, the remaining employees "are sort of like a cancer survivor. They have been through so much hell, they deserve to live and have some success."
This statment makes me howl....
I have so many e-mails from this guy that say the exact opposite. B)
He use to tell me over and over again that his execs could find jobs anywhere making much more, but he dare say that of the rank and file.
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Thank you VERY much for showing this guys true colors versus his twisted version. I loathe him and his kind who look at others as "little people" when they themselves are mere mortals as well.
"The first shall be last and the last shall be first"
USA320Pilot
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767jetz:
Your posts clearly show you do not like what I write and you're trying to mimic me, which is the greatest form of flattery. Keep up the therapeutic work because it's likely fear driven and I understand your personal concern.
The difference from what you and I write is that I use US Airways sources and you use competitor sources. My comments come from people attending the meetings or with direct knowledge of the discussions, supported by public comments, and yours come from the news media and your imagination.
Meanwhile, if my comments have no merit why waste your time on another airlines forum trying to dispell them. If my comments are untrue than why so much emotion? Why not use your energy on the United forum instead on something productive?
Nonetheless, best of luck during the month of May for you and your colleagues because it should be an interesting month at the WHQ.
Regards,
USA320Pilot
Your posts clearly show you do not like what I write and you're trying to mimic me, which is the greatest form of flattery. Keep up the therapeutic work because it's likely fear driven and I understand your personal concern.
The difference from what you and I write is that I use US Airways sources and you use competitor sources. My comments come from people attending the meetings or with direct knowledge of the discussions, supported by public comments, and yours come from the news media and your imagination.
Meanwhile, if my comments have no merit why waste your time on another airlines forum trying to dispell them. If my comments are untrue than why so much emotion? Why not use your energy on the United forum instead on something productive?
Nonetheless, best of luck during the month of May for you and your colleagues because it should be an interesting month at the WHQ.
Regards,
USA320Pilot
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PineyBob:
It is simply a response to 767jetz who only visits US Airways' forum to dispute every post I write that has any piece of United Airlines information. It's clear he lives in fear and this is likely his personal therapy. I agree with you that we should not discuss it any more because US Airways has "shunned" United for obvious reasons.
Best regards,
USA320Pilot
It is simply a response to 767jetz who only visits US Airways' forum to dispute every post I write that has any piece of United Airlines information. It's clear he lives in fear and this is likely his personal therapy. I agree with you that we should not discuss it any more because US Airways has "shunned" United for obvious reasons.
Best regards,
USA320Pilot
