August 2013 Pilot Discussion

[Phoenix]

It is refreshing that even one of the "good guys" chose to briefly end his sabbatical to support the “RR Theorem.”

That is spot on, but I fear it may be far too oblique.. Does any West pilot know/remember the RR Theorem? That a Westie would come out of retirement to unwittingly expound upon the RR Theorem... Priceless... He is still scratching his head trying to recall the theorem.

 

[traderjake]

There was a time I would try to persuade myself you were above such.. but alas you are more persuasive otherwise. C'est la vie.

Just a friendly taunt between pals.

Claxon knows I don't mean it just like I know he doesn't mean all the stuff he says about my father.

 

[Claxon]

Just a friendly taunt between pals.

Claxon knows I don't mean it just like I know he doesn't mean all the stuff he says about my father.

Your humble opinion.

 

[Claxon]

Yes creditors committee and APA, the following is a america west pilot produced video.

"O brave new world.."

 

[Claxon]

Hey gunnie, tbone, how did you like the results of the declaratory judgment you spoke about in the above video you starred in? The company appealed to stall things, but to put it in your caveman terms, you lost your behind stagnates.

"IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE DISTRICT OF ARIZONA
US Airways, Inc.,
Plaintiff,
vs.
Don Addington, et al.,
Defendants.
))))))))))
No. CV-10-01570-PHX-ROS
AMENDED JUDGMENT
(to add description of class)
Pursuant to the Court’s resolution of the motions for summary judgment,
IT IS ORDERED Counts I and III of the complaint are dismissed and judgment is
entered in favor of US Airline Pilots Association on Count II of the complaint. US Airline Pilots Association’s seniority proposal does not breach its duty of fair representation
provided it is supported by a legitimate union purpose. This judgment is binding on the
following class: “All pilots employed by US Airways in September 2008 who were on the
America West seniority list on September 20, 2005.”
DATED this 4th day of December, 2012."

Judge Silver

 

[Claxon]

For more free, helpful advice from one of the america west pilot stars in the above video, click the following link. They fly airplanes with people on them?

https://twitter.com/TBonetheBiker

 

[end_of_alpa]

I'm not going anywhere.

I'm looking forward to flying with you.

Same.

 

[luvthe9]

From: Date: October 14, 2013, 1858 EDT
Subject: Fwd: DPA CREW VAN NEWS - MEC Recall
​

See Below. DALPA has been run as a dictatorship for too long. This shows you why it is time to toss them (my words not DPA).

13-14​

October 12, 2013

Special MEC Meeting​

The Delta MEC will hold a special MEC meeting on Thursday, October 17, beginning 9AM at the Atlanta Airport Hilton, 1031 Virginia Ave, Atlanta, GA.​

 

[Metroyet]

Does USTUPID know the difference between a hearing and a TRIAL? They're obviously hoping nobody else does either.

 

[luvthe9]

For more free, helpful advice from one of the america west pilot stars in the above video, click the following link. They fly airplanes with people on them?

https://twitter.com/TBonetheBiker

What a moron, perfect AWA material.

 

[snapthis]

Does USTUPID know the difference between a hearing and a TRIAL? They're obviously hoping nobody else does either.

USTUPID

You got that right. Remember the fellow who said give me thousands of dollars and you can sit in a sweat lodge? You might pass out or feel the urge to leave but...

Weak minded people tend to do stupid things when told they will obtain unrealistic, unattainable objectives.

http://m.jsonline.com/more/news/milwaukee/self-help-guru-whose-sweat-lodge-ceremony-led-to-3-deaths-is-released-b9953811z1-215378211.html

Moral of the story:
Don't listen to James Ray and refuse any drinks bought by Jim Jones...

"In the coming weeks, Vice President Steve Bradford will continue to coordinate the preparation with the Officers for the Addington II Hearing before Judge Silver in Phoenix on October 22 and 23. There have been numerous document filings over the past couple of weeks covering this matter and they are all available for your review in the Legal Library section of the USAPA website"

Hearing huh? You might want to get it checked.

 

[Reed Richards]

Hearing huh? You might want to get it checked.

Must be a slow news day out West. RR

 

[snapthis]

Must be a slow news day out West. RR

Until USAPA puts out an update.

The Onion never fails to give me a chuckle, RR.

 

[Reed Richards]

Until USAPA puts out an update.

The Onion never fails to give me a chuckle, RR.

Here is a little "Onion update" from the USAPA statement of facts I just read. It's not just a chuckle, its a laugh riot:


204. In August, 2013, in response to Section 22.C protests filed by Phoenix-based

pilots , US Airways stated as follows:

This will acknowledge receipt of the letter of protest you filed pursuant

to Section 22.C of the America West Pilots' Collective Bargaining

Agreement concerning the July 1, 2013 seniority list posted by the

Company. In that protest, you contend that the Company is obligated to

implement the Nicolau Award as soon as the MTA/MOU becomes

effective. That contention is meritless, and your protest must be denied.

Section 22.C of the America West Pilots' Collective Bargaining

Agreement only applies to disputes regarding a West Pilot's seniority

relative to other West Pilots as set forth on the West Pilots seniority list.

Challenges to the East/West integrated seniority list, which will be

created after there has been a merger and the federally-required

McCaskill-Bond seniority integration process has been completed, are

beyond the scope of Section 22.C.

Moreover, even if the Section 22.C process applied to disputes regarding

the future East/West integrated seniority list, your claim that the

MTA/MOU amounts to a single labor agreement obligating the

Company to apply the Nicolau Award immediately is contrary to the

express provision in the Transition Agreement (Section XII) that any

of the Transition Agreement's provisions "[m]ay be modified by written

agreement of the Association and the Airline Parties collectively."

By its terms, the MOU constitutes a written agreement between USAPA

and the Company which modifies the provisions of the Transition

Agreement relating to implementation of an integrated seniority list.

Paragraph 10.h. of the MOU specifies that "US Airways agrees that

neither this Memorandum nor the JCBA shall provide a basis for

changing the seniority list currently in effect at US Airways other than

through the process set forth in this Paragraph 10." The Paragraph 10

process provides for seniority-list integration in accordance with the

standards and procedures of the federal McCaskill-Bond law, and that

process will not even begin until after the merger has been

consummated. Modifying the seniority lists immediately, as you have

requested, would violate the MTA/MOU.

 

[Reed Richards]

Next week’s proceedings will be all about implementation of a perverted legal scheme to give the West Class representational status without an election. That's a given. I suggest the less exciting thread to follow in the trial will be this: Who wrote the language for the seniority section of the MOU? Who read it and approved it? What lawyers knew exactly what the language meant, when did they know? I don’t know the answers to these questions, but I have some pretty strong guesses. I contend everyone involved knew exactly what the language in the MOU meant. RR