Apfa Election
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jimntx
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I'm not trying to start an argument. I'm just curious as to why you think the good ideas of the TW people are going to be listened to any better now than before this joke of an RPA. And, some of their ideas were not only good, they would have significantly reduced or eliminated the furloughees. No one at Useless Blvd was even willing to listen to, much less use, the ideas.MiAAmi said:
I agree that the time is now to move on and work together, but with the current President and BOD, I don't see that happening. A movement is once again afoot to deny furloughees the right to vote. And, that ain't a baseless rumor. I was called and asked how I would feel about giving up my voting rights while furloughed. The question was asked by someone who favors such a move in order to "stop the TWA flight attendants from influencing OUR votes." Now, why would that be?
twasilverbullet
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twaokc, if you are refering to miaami, he majored in ANTITWALANTOLIGY with a phd in WARDOLOGY. :blink:twaokc said:
Ugh..they were not "ideas" MiAAmi, alternate contracts were drawn up fromMiAAmi said:
the hard work of several TW'ers that eliminated any furloughs and still came
up with the numbers. They were sent to "Useless" with NO response-I'm sure
they went to the shredder. You lose sight of the fact that while we will fight
for our seniority, that we wanted to HELP and the door has been slammed
in our faces enough. 'Fraid you are on your own, now.
Either you mis-understood what I wrote or you are super sensitive. I was only encouraging you (the TW'ers) to put those ideas that they always say they have in the hat and have an input. If your going to quit trying when they don't always agree with your idea, then you have less tenacity than I thought.twaokc said:
jimntx
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Again, I ask. What leads you to believe that their efforts will be less wasted this time than last? They made several efforts to help. All were rebuffed. What has changed about the situation?MiAAmi said:
One of the first signs of insanity is to do the same thing over and over and expect different results.
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I have to say getting rid of the TWA vote by denying furloughees who are dues paid up union members just increases the hostility between the groups. It smacks of very small mind thinking. It is at the level of 4 year olds who say you cannot play in my sandbox. It totally ignores the major problem of 11,000 potential voters who chose not to vote at all. Bigger thinking might rehetorically ask the question, "what are we doing wrong that 11,000 stayed home on voting night?" Given what has transpired over the last 3 years, I have little hope that APFA can ever get out of the sandbox they continue to play in. The leadership seems stuck at the developmental level of 4 year olds.
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MiAAmi consistantly sarcastically slams us then comes back and says wa wa wa "I hope all the furloughs are back to work soon, including twa," And as far as tanacity is concerned...you still question that? That's rich!
Maybe I don't understand, but what was the benefit or the company not giving the furloughed fa's unlimited recall rights? I understand the no furlough pay benefit to the company. For those of you on this board who think those on the line don't want you to have this, you are wrong. I personally don't understand why Ward did this. Does anyone know for sure if Kitty Solder is challenging the disqualified votes. On their website it says nothing! Backontherighttrack.com
