Another School Massacre

[southwind]

YOu know south...I don't want to ban all guns. Heck...I don't even oppose owning them for self defense. But if we even TRIED to introduce regulations like in depth background checks or longer waiting periods....mental health evaluations...ending the ability for individuals to sell weapons to some nutcase at a gun show without checking so much as the weather, while "legitimate" gun dealers have to conduct even a cursory background check (and in many cases still could NOT sell the gun to the nut case)...the NRA and the gun nuts rise up in anger because it's an infringement of their rights.

I kind of look at it the way most gun righties looked at the blatant violation of our 4th, 5th and 6th amendment rights and said "if you haven't done anything wrong you don't have to worry". Well....back at you - if you haven't done anything wrong, you shouldn't fear the results of a mental health evaluation or an in depth background check. But your God given right to own a gun might be delayed by a couple of more days. And according to the NRA and the Constitutionalists - this is a violation of their 2nd amendment rights because the commies might attack any minute.

I don't have a problem with more intense background checks either but , I do have a problem with big brother telling me what kind of gun I'm allowed to buy and how many rounds it's allowed to hold !

 

[southwind]

Did you miss the post where I commented that the Liberals and Brady Group know all weapons can't be banned over-night and that baby steps must be taken in order to achieve that goal ?
I look at what BaRack and his posse are proposing, as that first step !

 

[KCFlyer]

We've been taking "baby steps" for the past 40 years and if anything, we're regressed and not progressed. It's nice not owning a gun...we seem to worry less.

 

[southwind]

We've been taking "baby steps" for the past 40 years and if anything, we're regressed and not progressed. It's nice not owning a gun...we seem to worry less.

That's nice, in a perfect world and until someone breaks down your door and threatens your family !
Guess your one of the, "That would never happen to me" peeps !

 

[Dog Wonder]

As opposed to those "they are watching and waiting" paranoids.

 

[KCFlyer]

Well South, I am 56 years old and growing up, dad didn't own a gun. He died from cancer at age 75, not from an intruder. Mom died of injuries suffered in a fall, but not from a home invader. I've made it over 40 years on my own and haven't been involved with any altercations involving guns. If I had thought that gun ownership would have let me keep my mom and dad a few years longer, I would have been first in line to purchase an AR15 when they became legal.

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

Well South, I am 56 years old and growing up, dad didn't own a gun. He died from cancer at age 75, not from an intruder. Mom died of injuries suffered in a fall, but not from a home invader. I've made it over 40 years on my own and haven't been involved with any altercations involving guns. If I had thought that gun ownership would have let me keep my mom and dad a few years longer, I would have been first in line to purchase an AR15 when they became legal.

And your story is similar to most families in our country. The chances of the average middle class family home being invaded by gun toting marauders is as slim as being hit by lightning (probably less).

 

[signals]

https://www.scoopinion.com/articles/1702325?mailing_id=3295693&original_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fmagazine-21379912&source=email

 

[southwind]

Well South, I am 56 years old and growing up, dad didn't own a gun. He died from cancer at age 75, not from an intruder. Mom died of injuries suffered in a fall, but not from a home invader. I've made it over 40 years on my own and haven't been involved with any altercations involving guns. If I had thought that gun ownership would have let me keep my mom and dad a few years longer, I would have been first in line to purchase an AR15 when they became legal.

And hopefully, with your outlook, you'll never need a weapon, to defend your family !

 

[KCFlyer]

And hopefully, with your outlook, you'll never need a weapon, to defend your family !

That's my point South. My grandfather never needed one in the 86 years he's lived, my dad didn't need one in his 75 years, and I've not needed one yet in my 56 years. To put that in perspective...the flyer family has not needed a gun to protect the family since at least 1892 - over 120 years.

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

https://www.scoopinion.com/articles/1702325?mailing_id=3295693&original_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fmagazine-21379912&source=email

"When I meet Mathias, a PhD student and serving officer, at his apartment in a snowy suburb of Zurich, I realise the rules have got stricter than I imagined. Mathias keeps his army pistol in the guest room of his home..."

"I do as the army advises and I keep the barrel separately from my pistol," he explains seriously. "I keep the barrel in the basement so if anyone breaks into my apartment and finds the gun, it's useless to them."

"He shakes out the gun holster. "And we don't get bullets any more," he adds. "The Army doesn't give ammunition now - it's all kept in a central arsenal." This measure was introduced by Switzerland's Federal Council in 2007.

Mathias carefully puts away his pistol and shakes his head firmly when I ask him if he feels safer having a gun at home, explaining that even if he had ammunition, he would not be allowed to use it against an intruder.

"The gun is not given to me to protect me or my family," he says. "I have been given this gun by my country to serve my country - and for me it is an honour to take care of it. I think it is a good thing for the state to give this responsibility to people."

 

[EastUS1]

When you look at the GOP you folks seem to be quite an obedient lot. You tend to fall in lock step with your leaders regardless.

You either can't read or just can't think. I've noted myself as a libertarian that equally despises both of the currently ruling political machines, and consider none any "leaders". Anyone who's incapable of even imagining the idea of independant thought of any kind, without such falling into one of your conveniently and appropriately mindless little camps must exceed the limits of your imagination.

 

[EastUS1]

"The gun is not given to me to protect me or my family," he says. "I have been given this gun by my country to serve my country - and for me it is an honour to take care of it. I think it is a good thing for the state to give this responsibility to people."

Wonderful! So then; the glorious "country'/government he lives with considers itself the be-end-all, and himself and his family aren't of even the slightest consequence. And that actually "makes sense" to that, or any other incurable village idiots?

 

[777 fixer]

. I've noted myself as a libertarian

Everyone is a libertarian until they are unemployed, their social security check is late or when time comes to sign up for Medicare.

 

[EastUS1]

Everyone is a libertarian until they are unemployed, their social security check is late or when time comes to sign up for Medicare.

Such arrogantly presumptive and purely projectionist BS clearly ID's you as a "liberal".