Amfa's Attempt To Deceive!

[Bob Owens]

Since it's obvious Dave was so upset about the letter and has refused to post it!

Here is a copy for everyone to see!

Response to Amfa from NMB!

Extension granted for objections 2 weeks

Additional cards submited for 5 weeks denied!

CIO;
If AMFA is a company union, then why would AA inflate the list in an attempt to keep AMFA out?

Are you agreeing with the company that there are 18000 TWU M&R members?

If so, and there are only around 14000 presently on payroll, counting TWU officials, does that mean that we have 4000 on layoff?

Two years ago when the TWU filed with the NMB they claimed that there was only 16000 in M&R with the addition of TWA.

Last year when the ballots went out it was based on the 16000 number. So if 3000 out of that 16000 were not sent out, plus the other 2000 that you now claim we have, that means that 5000 people did not get ballotts? If thats the case dont you think we need a revote? The vote only passed by 700 votes and according to your numbers, a much greater margin that that were denied ballotts.

It all just goes to show how off track you guys are. You embrace union busting tactics in order to deny your members the right to vote. You promote the corporate style "democracy" and try to mimic it with the TWU, something that the rest of the Labor movement regularly criticizes. You promote more work for less pay. Can you tell me, other than the fact that you believe in compulsory dues, whats the difference between your way of thinking and the company and union busters way of thinking?

 

[Checking it Out]

I believe you are comparing apples to oranges!

Dave dream on! Why do you believe all members who are eligible do not have a right to vote?


Bob, I have seen no evidence that AA has inflated the list! But I have seen evidence Amfa Has!

I believe that AA has supplied a list they believe who are eligible to vote! I also believe amfa will attempt to shrink the list! As the NMB will reduce the list Amfa has supplied! That is part of the process!

Union busting tactics? I believe you and deadbolt are the ones that continue to qoute phrases from these books! So who is reading them and are you puppets sent out to do just that!

It's fun to watch!

 

[twuer]

I notice that CIO is now dependent on AMFA National for information.

It is a true testimony to AMFA openess, that he has to use AMFA sources to be informed and he now uses that resource to inform the readers. Welcome to real unionism CIO! How come you cannot link to any TWU site with the info?

Good news, we have discovered who the "GHOST" are and we do not need more time for card collection, but the two week extension will suffice for us to put together the complete objection submission. We now know that we have enough cards for the election, regardless of the decision on other group and individual protest in the works. The Ghost removal alone will put us over the top, and there is NO QUESTION about that group now.

Shame on AA and the TWU for what was attempted.

Wait until you readers all get to see the facts on the GHOST riders on the AA submitted e-list.

HAVE AN AMFA DAY, Because you will be having many more SOON!

Oh Happy Days!

Dave, Dave, Dave. . .

And you expect us to believe that???? Why hasn't the national put out any information??? Why aren't they screaming what you claim from the hilltops? Why have you NOT put up proof for us to see? You know how good you are at that!!

I can tell you why. . .

BECAUSE YOU ARE LYING. . .AGAIN!!!!

Remember this quote you made to CIO?
You really have a problem with the truth, don't you?

Is that why you lie all the time? So you do not have to face the TWU sucks truth?

You need to apply that to yourself only change it to amfa sucks truth!!!!

Amfa has lost but you won't accept that so you are making up fabrications to make it seem that amfa has a chance. You are stringing along the amfa supporters and playing games with them. Good strategy! NOT!!!!

And that appeal that Seham sent in. . .another joke!! All he is going to do is piss off the people at the NMB. With the nerve of trying to tell those people how to do their jobs!!! What . . isn't that strike three for him???

HE'S OUT!!!!

I think you need another game plan Dave!!! The one you have. . . . . . . isn't working!!

 

[Bob Owens]

I believe you are comparing apples to oranges!

Dave dream on! Why do you believe all members who are eligible do not have a right to vote?


Bob, I have seen no evidence that AA has inflated the list! But I have seen evidence Amfa Has!

I believe that AA has supplied a list they believe who are eligible to vote! I also believe amfa will attempt to shrink the list! As the NMB will reduce the list Amfa has supplied! That is part of the process!

Union busting tactics? I believe you and deadbolt are the ones that continue to qoute phrases from these books! So who is reading them and are you puppets sent out to do just that!

It's fun to watch!

So you are saying that we have 18000 in our class and craft?

However you are only collecting dues from around 14000, that means we have more on layoff than NWA?

 

[Decision 2004]

Since it's obvious Dave was so upset about the letter and has refused to post it!

Here is a copy for everyone to see!

Response to Amfa from NMB!

Extension granted for objections 2 weeks

Additional cards submited for 5 weeks denied!

Why doesn't the TWU post their response to AMFA's opening statement on the ATD Website?

You know? The letter where Art Luby is whining about Hotdogs, Ice Cream Socials, and a TWU Cake that was cut up to symbolize the "DEMISE of the TWU"?

I was laughing so hard about that whining letter, I nearly pissed my pants!