AMFA......read on

[Topcat187]

Most of our class and craft at American Airlines do not realize how AMFA operates specifically local and national officers.AMFA local and national officers:Local Presidents. On the clock working, in the head count, right next to the members who elected him and if need be the president will go on Union businessRegional Reps: On the clock working, in the head count, right next tothe members who elected him and only if need be goes on UB.National Officers: Only 2 national officers are on UB full time, the rest report to work, in the head count right next to the members who elected him and only go on UB when necessary.This is keeps AMFA's operating expenses low and they have a higher money value per member ratio than the TWU or the teamsters even though they are bigger.Under AMFA concept of operation, you do not have to call your representatives they are working with you just ask them while your getting your plane out and you won't have to explain to your rep the issues he will know them!If we had the AMFA model here at AA, then All our International reps would be working with us on a crew at least a few days a week. imagine that ever happening with the TWU on the property?Had enough yet?Sign an AMFA card and lets file the cards!

Ok, In an AMFA supporter, but I have to say that having the president and regional reps is a double edged sword. I like the fact that they are out in the field, but there is a lot of work that needs to be done in the union. How are they keeping up with representing memebers and be pro active? I think im ok with them being off of the clock if they are accountable.

 

[700UW]

700, Stay out of this convo.  This is in fact an AMFA thread.
 You guys keep moving forward, keep working hard, it is time for change at AA for new representation. Get rid of the on going and continuous agreed to concessions after concessions at AA for the mechanic groups.  Fire the TWU.  Get the US guys on board for the new change, do not let them fall into the TWU/IAM scandal.  Good luck to you guys, and I am very confident that it will happen this time, in 2014, keep the faith guys and be in control of your futures...

Excuse me?
 
This is a message board, I can post where ever and whatever I want as long as I am in compliance with the TOS.
 
You dont own the board nor are you a moderator.
 
Wrong information was posted and I am simply providing the correct information.

 

[bigjets]

An interesting fact, my girl friend an AA FA, got 100 shares in this last round, I got 44 shares I usually got about 10% less then her every distribution but this was a lot less. It's amazing what the TWU takes from it's own members.

 

[OldGuy@AA]

Saw the town hall video Parker had in PHX.  He mentioned an offer on the table to settle the IAM contract.  An IAM guy said the offer was for a 1% raise after 18 months but they have to give up holidays to get it.  Looks like Parker is trying to stuff our contract down their throats.  I am thinking the IAM will fold and take it just like the TWU.  Nice to know that even though we are out of BK, Parker and co. are still pushing concessions.  The TWU will never get our holidays back so the IAM is going to give theirs away too.  As far as the equity and all that stuff, the FAs got much better deals all the way around.  But they are the only ones that dared to strike too.  I am thinking the AMFA cards will be getting signed at a faster rate with U.S. Air guys after they see what the IAM is going to get them.  Hopefully by that time we will already be AMFA.  

 

[700UW]

The IAM is not going to accept the offer, it has all ready been rejected, and the IAM has been pushing for a release.
 
They are going to meet with the NMB on April 30th and May 1st, and supposedly the company has a new offer to pass on.

 

[1AA]

An interesting fact, my girl friend an AA FA, got 100 shares in this last round, I got 44 shares I usually got about 10% less then her every distribution but this was a lot less. It's amazing what the TWU takes from it's own members.

44 shares? You got that many? Don't let the TWU find out.

 

[1AA]

The IAM is not going to accept the offer, it has all ready been rejected, and the IAM has been pushing for a release.
 
They are going to meet with the NMB on April 30th and May 1st, and supposedly the company has a new offer to pass on.

Company is shooting for parity with our crappy contract. Then it will be much easier to get a JCBA and the alliance vote to follow.

 

[700UW]

There wont be JCBA talks until PMUS has a Section 6 and AFTER the Alliance vote, not before.

 

[AANOTOK]

Saw the town hall video Parker had in PHX.  He mentioned an offer on the table to settle the IAM contract.  An IAM guy said the offer was for a 1% raise after 18 months but they have to give up holidays to get it.  Looks like Parker is trying to stuff our contract down their throats.  I am thinking the IAM will fold and take it just like the TWU.  Nice to know that even though we are out of BK, Parker and co. are still pushing concessions.  The TWU will never get our holidays back so the IAM is going to give theirs away too.  As far as the equity and all that stuff, the FAs got much better deals all the way around.  But they are the only ones that dared to strike too.  I am thinking the AMFA cards will be getting signed at a faster rate with U.S. Air guys after they see what the IAM is going to get them.  Hopefully by that time we will already be AMFA.  

1% after 18 months with the loss of holidays, and we are gonna be the biggest and most profitable carrier??
Wow Parker, you watch how quick your huge/money making fairytale disappears...

 

[AMFAinMIAMI]

There wont be JCBA talks until PMUS has a Section 6 and AFTER the Alliance vote, not before.

 
700UW
 
You may think that DP is going to deal with US first get a deal made then allow the IAM/TWU alliance to work toward a JCBA. We the AMFA organizers here at AA
think that will not happen. Just our opinion, but you can dream if you want. As AA employees we have seen over and over how AA works. Not Being an AA employee
you don't have a clue, what AA has planned. 
 
They are going to stall long enough so that the contract that we are working under now will become ammendable. Then and only then will he deal with USAirways.
He is not going to give the USAirways guys a contract then turn and deal with them again with joint negotiations looking for more JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN..
AA dosen't work that way they have a very sharp Legal team.
 
There are guys at USAirways collecting cards to rid US of the IAM, then we will use those when we go to the NMB to stop this alliance by replacing the TWU with AMFA.
 
We have the lists from both US and AA, due to the filing, so we know who both companies said were eligible.
 
We also know exactly how many cards we will need when it comes time.
 
As much as hate to say this the only reason the IBT lost was the pension, well AA took from the pilots, the F/A and the TWU, so they won't loose it but AA is going to stop paying into that as well once the JCBA is signed. AA will not come back and off to restart our pensions. AA is not going to give it to one group and not the other two.
 
We the mechanics are working towrd a goal to bring AMFA here to AA, that means for the US guys and the AA guys as well.
 
This is the only way we are going to move forward to better our class and craft for the future.
 
USAirways hasn't even worked things out with its pilots yet still east/west so how long to you think it going to take for them to join with the BIG shot AA Pilots.
 
This is why it is important that we don't waste time fighting over spilled milk and get the crads signed to remeove the TWU, merge the two carriers under one mechanics union and then get our Joint agrement. Fighting is only going to keep us down and will not give us M&R a fighting chance during our contract negotiations.
 
 
AMFA at the NEW AA in 2014....

 

[OldGuy@AA]

The funniest thing on the video was some lady who was whining that she has 16 years seniority and she doesn't like the first come first served or the through passenger getting on first.  I was waiting for someone to tell her that at AA 16 years seniority ain't squat?  hahaha.  These folks got a lot to learn.  Also Parker told them PHX was going to be their hub for the west coast.  If you believe that you need to stop smoking crack.

 

[lineguy43]

God man it pains me to read all this I hate to say it I am glad I get paid very well and am non union. Being a veteran of IAM and AMFA even after what I went through I hope AMFA prevails for you guys but I am glad I don't have to fight anymore. I have faced the facts that there really is no good union out there for the AMT other than AMFA and the deck is stacked against AMFA. Kinda crazy that a certificated airman that takes an average of 18 months to get has less respect and pay than a dispatcher that takes 5 weeks to obtain and they have flight deck jumpseat privileges at not only their airline but others as well. Something we as AMT's DO NOT HAVE! This is what industrial unions have gotten for the AMT exactly SQUAT. We as AMT's do not have rest rules like pilots and F/A's and even dispatchers. We are second only to pilots for aircraft disasters but we do not have any rules regarding our rest. I know I have been on road trips where my eyes were bleeding from lack of sleep but the FAA could care less. and we as mechanics are our own worst enemies being OT whores. I just hope I can retire soon I am fed up with it..

 

[Show me the money]

The funniest thing on the video was some lady who was whining that she has 16 years seniority and she doesn't like the first come first served or the through passenger getting on first.  I was waiting for someone to tell her that at AA 16 years seniority ain't squat?  hahaha.  These folks got a lot to learn.  Also Parker told them PHX was going to be their hub for the west coast.  If you believe that you need to stop smoking crack.

I could not agree more. The only ones CRYING over fcfs is the US (I got mine) Air. I don't hear any one at AA complaining the the kids of employees should be reduced to some lower status of non person. I know that America West used to have the same system that we do. As far as PHX being the west coast hub, good luck with that. For all the haters at US Air, you will be assimilated resistance futile.  Sign a card lets get some change. If you think that the TWU or the IAM are bad separately, an alliance would be horrible for all us under their control.

 

[Kev3188]

and we as mechanics are our own worst enemies being OT whores.

+1

...I'd also expand that to include the ramp, and a whole lot of jobs outside the industry as well.

 

[AANYER]

As a 26 year AA employee, FCFS is the best policy.  It allows all hard working employees an equal opportunity to get on the limited seats available.  I could not believe that the 16 year US Air employee was complaining that they could be bypassed by my children, who are minors.  What a heartless, gutless and selfish individual! So therefore, if you are split from your children due to high capacity, your children will be stuck in a hub station because another employee just showed up at his home station.  I would love to give this person a piece of my mind.  I saw her made that statement and I was flabbergasted. I wanted to say to her, Just get up early and catch the first flights out.  There is no way that I can get into a hub station early enough to catch the first wave of flights.  I'm now seeing why the employee groups at US Air and America West were so dysfunctional over the years.  People stop the madness.  All employees should be given a fear chance regardless of their tenure at the airline.  Please stop, you are not entitled to the seats because of seniority.