AMFA Mechanics contract.08/ 2012

[AvTech04]

Or you.can ask any 5th year mechanic what his pay is.
It is what is listed on the wage scale beside 5th year.
You have to complete 5 years to top out and receive the thereafter rate.

I would but I don't know any 5 year mechanics and the MCO guys aren't very receptive to us yet so there's another brick wall there. I guess we'll just see when they get the payraise check and see where they fall. I'll post the info here in a few weeks hopefully. Thanks guys for all the input.

 

[lineguy]

:blush:

I am not wrong and you still can't answer my question.

When are they paid the rate listed on the wage scale labeled 5th year?

Let me help you. At the start of their 5th year.

And so when are they paid the thereafter rate?
That's right, you can do it, AT THE START OF THEIR 6TH YEAR.

So you are still an idiot.

HAW HAW HAW HAW !!!

 

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So you will tell us who us absolutely right lol lol

 

[swamt]

AvTech04;

I really wanted to stay out, but here is an even easier way to resolve this. Use the dates in the contract as your hire dates. Then follow them thru. The dates, are the dates that you start to get paid at the wage listed.
I see where you will have some confusion from the AT guys though.

It states your first 6 months pay is 20.70 this starts day one thru 6 months.
2nd 6 months pay starts at the beginning of your 2nd 6 months thru your 2nd 6 months up to 1 year.
So after completing a full year, you start your 2nd year pay rate. And so on...
Hope this helps. Just use the actual pay dates as your hire date of 8-16-08 and move thru it. You get your first raise at 6 months, then at 1 year completed service, then it comes annually after that for the contract raises. Long. raises, of course, will come at your hire date. If your hire date falls in the middle of a pay period start date, you will get paid for the long back to the start of that existing pay period.

 

[AvTech04]

AvTech04;

I really wanted to stay out, but here is an even easier way to resolve this. Use the dates in the contract as your hire dates. Then follow them thru. The dates, are the dates that you start to get paid at the wage listed.
I see where you will have some confusion from the AT guys though.

It states your first 6 months pay is 20.70 this starts day one thru 6 months.
2nd 6 months pay starts at the beginning of your 2nd 6 months thru your 2nd 6 months up to 1 year.
So after completing a full year, you start your 2nd year pay rate. And so on...
Hope this helps. Just use the actual pay dates as your hire date of 8-16-08 and move thru it. You get your first raise at 6 months, then at 1 year completed service, then it comes annually after that for the contract raises. Long. raises, of course, will come at your hire date. If your hire date falls in the middle of a pay period start date, you will get paid for the long back to the start of that existing pay period.

Thanks for the post, and that's how I understood it to be aswell. It's pretty well explained in the contract aside from the thereafter part. Some SWA guys told me that top out was at 5 years so i thought they meant the start of the 5th year when in reality they probably meant the end of the 5th, start of the 6th. Anyway, these guys are all getting raises, they just don't seem to have the patients to wait and see. Again, thank you all for your input.

Here's another one for you guys, attendance policy. What attendance policy do you guys have, I'd any? We're wondering how they are going to merge us into you guys policy once our contract is dissolved.

 

[WNMECH]

Here's another one for you guys, attendance policy. What attendance policy do you guys have, I'd any? We're wondering how they are going to merge us into you guys policy once our contract is dissolved.

I would really like to tell you but some Bozo would probably come on and say I was wrong when I wasn't again.

 

[swamt]

AvTech,

As far as the attendence policy, the co. is trying to enforce a new policy on us with the following. 4 incendences/occurences with a total of 9 days. reaching such a milestone will generate verbal, written warnings ect...
This new pilicy is under grievence as we speek. pretty sure the co. will try to fight it, but they really don't have a leg to stand on, as our contract already addresses sick call ect...
This one will be fault to the end, no deals or anything like that.

 

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Your right on with this one!!!!!

 

[lineguy]

We're gonna need some sort of compensation for having to deal with this trax crap.

 

[AvTech04]

AvTech,

As far as the attendence policy, the co. is trying to enforce a new policy on us with the following. 4 incendences/occurences with a total of 9 days. reaching such a milestone will generate verbal, written warnings ect...
This new pilicy is under grievence as we speek. pretty sure the co. will try to fight it, but they really don't have a leg to stand on, as our contract already addresses sick call ect...
This one will be fault to the end, no deals or anything like that.

So, they're trying to implement a company policy while still on the CBA that already address's attendance?? That sounds like a Trebelcock move!! Watch, now come negotiations, he's going to slide something in the TA that will change the superseding language from contract to company policies!! Similiar to what he did to us in our negotiations 7 years ago. Make the language sound identical to the current contract but interpreted as the companies policy would supersede the contract instead of vise versa, therefor implementing such an attendance policy without ever directly verbalizing it into the TA. I hope AMFA's ready for stuff like this, he's a slick old basterd.

But just for clarifications sake, how does the occurrences total 9 when divided into 4?? I'm not a math major but I can't seem to grasp this part. Not that it matters because I'm sure it won't pass, but how long is it before an occurrence falls off?

 

[AvTech04]

We're gonna need some sort of compensation for having to deal with this trax crap.

Hell yea!! That's why we had TRAX days in our contract, that wasn't much of a compensation, but it was better than nothing. Now you're having to input and navigate the CSDS more than ever before, so you should recieve additional compensation for it.

 

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Are you implying mr. T-cock must go?????

 

[Swadl]

The way I see it is our contract clearly has a sick policy, it's real vague but it's there. Imposing this new sick policy on us(mechanics) is another no vote for me. And yes T-Cock must GO!

 

[Swadl]

Occurrances fall off after 1 year, it's a rolling year not a calinder year. Remember per the new sick policy you will get an Occurrance for being late, (greater than 2 or 5 minutes) calling in sick. Those are the real Occurrances. They will issue Occurrances for pd rest, not clocking out, DTOs, but those are false Occurrances that the computer automatically generated and will be removed. So keep your eye out for them.

 

[AvTech04]

Thanks for the info. I see what it is they are trying to do here and I agree, the sooner you get Trebelcock out, the better we will all be. And that's yet another reason why I don't think you should allow most of the current Atlanta stewards to continue being stewards, referencing the committee here. A few of those guys are real brown nosers with T-Cock, buddy buddy, like hanging out away from office hours... Not that those guys are bad guys or anything, but they are strongly influenced by the T-cock! I hope AMFA really steps in and puts a stop to that.

Sorry to continue asking questions but I have another for you. How does the lead position work at SWA?? What I mean is, someone told me that the lead position is a bid position, not an interview position, and that anyone can bid for lead during the annual bid, is this true??