AMFA FILES PROTEST WITH NMB

[TRAVIS]

Well AMFA failed at NW,AS and UA.

Dells sent a leteer to NW management telling g them to take more from the other unions, not AMFA. They are a raiding organization, just like the IBT.

Also the ibt cba at HP was the worst in the industry.

The ibt at UPS has unlimited farmout, everything over a B-check is farmed out and they have part time mechanics.

Do you know when the west came under the ta their gse mechanics got a $10 an hour raise under the IAM? Also the west mechanics since the merger have gained around 30% increases in wages and benefits, all under the IAM?

700 I know how you like the facts so here they are: We are happy a GSE mechanic got a $10 an hour raise and after over 7 years you got the AMT's a 30% increases in wages But we are STILL ON THE BOTTOM PAY SCALE FOR AMT'S OF THE MAJOR AIRLINES BY ABOUT $7 AN HOUR.

As far as the HP contract being the worst this Pace Of Shi# TA contract we are under is no rose even when comparing it to a 1998 IBT contract.

The January 31 2005 IAM contract. AWA (IBT) before the merger (this would have been in 2005) with USAir. We made more per hour than USAir did before the merger, Vacation did not change, we had unlimited sick time at full Pay per day not half pay as we do today, we lost 2 holidays at the merger, we had a 401k plan and were in Negotiations at the time of the merger.

The IAM January 31 2005 contract: Base pay $22.77 see page 79. Lead pay $1.00 see page 78. Lic. Pay $1.00 each A/P max $2.00 see page 59. You had NO shift pay see page 237. 4 weeks vacation after 17 yrs. See page 53. And 5 holidays see page 14.

The IBT 1998 / 2003 contract. Base pay $23.35 see 20-2. Lead pay $1.00 per hour see 20-1. Lic pay $1.00 each A/P max of $2.00 see 20-1. Shift pays .32 cents Swing shift and .35 cents Graves. 4 weeks vacation after 12 yrs. See 14-1. And 7 Holidays with 2 floating total of 9. To top all this off the Contract was Amendable at the time of the merger in 2005.

So as you can see AWA (IBT AMT TOP OUT $25.70) made more than USAir (IAM AMT TOP OUT $24.77) up to 2005 even with the IBT contract ending in 2003. Now we all are under the April 3 2008 IAM TA Contract. And as you have said: IAM's crappiest bankruptcy CBA that we use as a Transition Agreement.

When you go to the IAM meetings DON'T DRINK THE KOOL-AID it may be doing something to you.

I WOULD NOT WANT TO LET YOU TWIST AND MISS LEAD THE AA BOYS WITH OUT ALL THE FACTS...

CHEW TOBACCO SPIT!

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[MCI transplant]

Who knows, had he done that US may have been the only one to file BK, maybe US would have liquidated but the US workers would be at other carriers and all of us would have earned a couple of hundred thousand more dollars each over the last eleven years.

I have a feeling the NMB is waiting for the War with Syria to start, after all what other excuse do they have to duck labor issues and screw workers out of their rights than to mask it under War time measures? seems the NMB isn't returning anyone's call. 700 says they asked to be released months ago, no answer. maybe they should just take that as a YES? Doesn't the RLA promise a timely resolution?

Or maybe it's that Obama just doesn't want a major Airline to go out on his watch? It would upset his perception of the economy improving! And make him take responsibility for whatever actions he might take! ------ Can't have that!! Stonewalling is one of his favorite tools!

 

[1AA]

What does all this have to do with.......
AMFA FILES PROTEST WITH NMB

 

[iluvaa]

Or American Airlines for that matter

 

[1AA]

Or American Airlines for that matter

AMFA's Appeal to NMB Determination (CASE NO. R-7365) Aug 20, 2013 - Posted by: AMFA National
August 20, 2013

BY FAX (202) 692-5085

Mary Johnson, General Counsel
National Mediation Board
1301 K Street, N.W., Ste. 250E
Washington, DC 20005

Re: NMB Case No. R-7365

Dear Ms. Johnson:

We write on behalf of the Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association (“AMFA&rdquo to request that the National Mediation Board (“NMB&rdquo not apply a one-year bar to organizing by Mechanics and Related Employees at American Airlines, Inc. (“American&rdquo based on the imminent dismissal of the application of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters (“Teamsters&rdquo in the above-referenced case. In our view, such a one-year bar would not only frustrate the democratic aspirations of American employees who have collected thousands of authorization cards in order to obtain representation by AMFA, but would also result in the NMB’s creation of a powerful ongoing incentive to resort to fraud as weapon in the union organizing context.

Through the latter part of 2012 and 2013, the Mechanics and Related Employees of American Airlines, Inc. (“American&rdquo conducted a well-publicized campaign to obtain representation by the Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association (“AMFA&rdquo. By mid-May, 2013, these AA employees had, by their own calculation, collected sufficient cards to satisfy the National Mediation Board’s (NMB) majority showing of interesting requirement and were in the final stages of collecting additional authorization cards to provide an adequate safety margin.

On May 28, 2013, the Teamsters, by their own filing, preempted the American employees’ application on behalf of AMFA. Moreover, despite the fact that the NMB’s Representation Manual provides for intervention by other unions, an AMFA intervention application filed within 24 hours, with thousands of supporting authorization cards, was rejected by the NMB as untimely. Substantial evidence indicates that the democratic aspirations of thousands of American employees has been subverted by criminal fraud.

The incumbent Transport Workers Union (“TWU&rdquo, as part of its Challenges and Objections, dated July 23, 2013, submitted two declarations from professional organizers from the Teamsters Organizing Department that an International Teamster Organizer and Teamster Directors and Coordinators were involved in falsifying cards and other related documents. In the aftermath of the TWU’s submission of this evidence of fraud, the Teamsters have chosen to “voluntarily” withdraw their application to the NMB.

AMFA is the only labor union that constitutionally limits itself to representing the craft or class of Mechanics and Related Employees in order to avoid conflicts of interests. AMFA is a democratic organization whose officers are directly elected by the members and subject to recall by these same members. The Teamsters cast a wider net and utilize a more centralized system of governance. Over the years, the resulting ideological rivalry has been one of great intensity. It beggars the imagination that the Teamsters flawed filing was motivated by anything other than a desire to frustrate the AMFA representation drive.

Irrespective of the Teamsters motivations, the NMB has in its possession substantial evidence of Teamsters’ fraud and substantial evidence that this fraud has frustrated the democratic aspirations of thousands of American employees who supported AMFA. Pursuant to 29 CFR §1206.4, the NMB has the authority to decline to impose a one-year bar under unusual or extraordinary circumstances. If the existing circumstances – involving substantial evidence of fraud and the frustration of an imminent filing supported by thousands of American employees – do not qualify under this standard, it is difficult to imagine what circumstances would.

Of equal significance, however, is that the application of a one-year bar under these circumstances would give rise to a new NMB-sanctioned strategy – the use of a fraudulent application to frustrate a representation drive by a rival union.

In its July 23rd submission, the TWU characterized the fraud committed in this matter to constitute criminal conduct in violation of 18 USC § 1001(a). We concur and hereby request that the NMB refer this matter to the appropriate prosecutorial body. The persons responsible should be behind bars.

In order to protect American democracy and to take a stand against criminality, we respectfully request that the NMB not impose a one-year bar in this matter.

Sincerely,
George Diamantopoulos

 

[swamt]

What does all this have to do with.......
AMFA FILES PROTEST WITH NMB

Or American Airlines for that matter

I agree with you guys. But if you look at the posters that started this they are the ones totally against AMFA. Just another way to try and deflect any positive that AMFA may have for this appeal protest with the NMB!!! Now for the rest of you---- GET BACK ON TOPIC!!!

 

[Tex-Mech]

AMFA's Appeal to NMB Determination (CASE NO. R-7365) Aug 20, 2013 - Posted by: AMFA National
August 20, 2013

BY FAX (202) 692-5085

Mary Johnson, General Counsel
National Mediation Board
1301 K Street, N.W., Ste. 250E
Washington, DC 20005

Re: NMB Case No. R-7365

In order to protect American democracy and to take a stand against criminality, we respectfully request that the NMB not impose a one-year bar in this matter.

For which they did impose the one year bar anyway a day before this letter was written.http://www.nmb.gov/r...2013/40n071.pdf

On the basis of the letter of withdrawal, the Board hereby dismisses the application and closes its file subject to part 1206.4 of the NMB Rules.

By direction of the NATIONAL MEDIATION BOARD.

Mary L. Johnson
§ 1206.4 Time limits on applications.
Except in unusual or extraordinary circumstances, the National Mediation Board will not accept an application for investigation of a representation dispute among employees of a carrier:
(a) For a period of two (2) years from the date of a certification covering the same craft or class of employees on the same carrier, and (b For a period of one (1) year from the date on which:
(1) The Board dismissed a docketed application after having conducted an election among the same craft or class of employees on the same carrier and less than a majority of valid ballots cast were for representation; or
(2) The Board dismissed a docketed application covering the same craft or class of employees on the same carrier because no dispute existed as defined in § 1206.2 of these rules; or
(3) The Board dismissed a docketed application after the applicant withdrew an application covering the same craft or class of employees on the same carrier after the application was docketed by the Board.

 

[1AA]

That is what the protest filing was addressing. The unusual and extraordinary circumstances. No decision has been made yet on the unusual and extraordinary circumstances protest.

 

[Thomas Paine]

IBT organizers confessing to the TWU that they forged thousands of cards. What would be more unusual or extraordinary than that? It would be one thing if they were being interrogated by the government but why would IBT organizers confess to fraudulently signing cards to to TWU? Should be interesting to see how the NMB looks at this.

 

[swamt]

And they confessed in writing, just so they had a reason to pull out, and the TWU lives on at AA with no other union (for now) able to submit for an election for one year. This was the plan from the very get go. And yes, it will be very interesting how the NMB will look at this.

 

[MCI transplant]

And they confessed in writing, just so they had a reason to pull out, and the TWU lives on at AA with no other union (for now) able to submit for an election for one year. This was the plan from the very get go. And yes, it will be very interesting how the NMB will look at this.

And what happens if they don't?

 

[TWU informer]

Nothing will change. these Industrial Unions do not have enough Political influence to stop Outsourcing of Our Jobs Overseas, not enough Political Influence to change anti-worker Bankruptcy Rules, not enough Political Influence to stop anti-worker changes in Workman's Compensation laws, not enough Political Influence to stop Right-to-Laws, but By God they do have enough Political Influence to keep us paying dues to failed representation.

 

[MCI transplant]

Nothing will change. these Industrial Unions do not have enough Political influence to stop Outsourcing of Our Jobs Overseas, not enough Political Influence to change anti-worker Bankruptcy Rules, not enough Political Influence to stop anti-worker changes in Workman's Compensation laws, not enough Political Influence to stop Right-to-Laws, but By God they do have enough Political Influence to keep us paying dues to failed representation.

I hear you! ------- Good Luck on this one! God knows you'll need it!

 

[swamt]

Aug update from AMFA National:

National Director's August 2013 Update






Aug 29, 2013 - Posted by: Louie Key


Dear Members:

Section 6 Negotiations continued at Southwest Airlines this month and progress continues to be made. Several articles were tentatively agreed to and advancement was made on others. The AMFA Committee has posted a detailed update. The next negotiation dates are scheduled for September 9-12; please contact your local Airline Representative for observer opportunities.

At Alaska Airlines this month the Company announced they intended to change the Company match in our 401k from Company stock to cash; however, our contract specifies the match will be made in Company stock. After several communications between the Company and Union, the Company has stated they will continue to follow the contract language, making their matching contribution in Company stock until there is agreement in the future to amend the contract. Currently, no dates have been scheduled to initiate the discussions on the possible Letter of Agreement (LOA) to create a new position called a “Contract Service Lead Technician.”

For the American Airlines (AA) mechanic and related things took a bizarre twist at the National Mediation Board (NMB) as the IBT decided to withdraw their petition for a representation election. The Teamsters were just severely beaten in the election at US Air and were about to be exposed at AA for desperately, and criminally, falsifying representation cards. In a failed attempt to save face, as they have no credibility left, the IBT withdrew their filing just prior to the NMB exposing the admitted falsification of representation cards by paid Teamster organizers. The IAM’s attorneys at US Air asked the NMB to investigate possible Teamster fraud in the US Air filing as well.

In an even more astounding revelation, both the TWU, who currently represents the AA mechanic and related, and the IBT acknowledged that the TWU invited the IBT in to run a diversionary false drive at AA because they were afraid of AMFA. Then, in what should come as no surprise, the IBT betrayed the TWU and tried to make a genuine go of it until their fraudulent activity was due to be exposed. It is profoundly disappointing that the mechanic and related employees at AA, who wanted an opportunity for a democratic change to a union with integrity – AMFA, were used as pawns in a game of manipulation and underhanded deceit by both the TWU and the IBT. AMFA has already filed a protest with the NMB and the details are on our Website. We are hopeful that the NMB takes swift and sharp action in this case.

For more carrier specific updates and further information regarding AMFA and the airline industry, please visit the AMFA National Web site at www.AMFANational.org and remember our most determined efforts will only succeed with your continued support and participation – Please stay informed. Remember, “Safety in the air begins with quality maintenance on the ground.”

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

What the hell is a "contract service Lead Technician"?

I sincerely hope it is not some union represented guy who oversees outsourced maintenance and signs off on the work.

Can someone please explain what this is?