American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[CremaDiLimone]

Not for nothing, DL agents (specifically Res) were given guidance on how to handle customer concerns.

ok. didn't mention delta because i don't believe you guys have any 737max. so, easy pitch for dl.

couldn't believe that aa didn't have a simple, but uniformed response, for passenger service agents trying to alleviate the anxiety of pax.

some of the agents have 3-4 months seniority...what can they say? maybe something to alarm them further.

 

[MetalMover]

This isn’t a contest over who got kicked in the balls harder. But you take that list I made for Fleet and that also would be thousands of lost jobs. Our Hubs are all littered with Commuters from all over the USA.



Yea and you’re getting all the focus from the TWU aren’t you? Chit it’s even a FSC out of DFW who’s running the campaigns fighting for you that sometimes I feel like he’s trying to suck (or sucker) us into.

I haven’t heard they’re not done with my group either BTW? But WE get NO press. We’re the little peons.



Survival? Dude get over yourselves. The TWU (Organization) represents way over 100,000 people. Where do you get that they are in any danger of survival? Do you read the LM2’s?

Trying to survive was under the Little administration. That’s not the case today.

And I say STFU because what you did “some time ago” is also in the past. A long ago forgotten footnote.

What have you don’t lately there JFK? I’ll give you a hint, CHIT SQUAT NOTHING!!!!!

Let MIA lead the way, WeAAz.. We have mechanics system wide transferring to MIA. Must be paradise there. Maybe the unlimited OT?

So ask yourself this, what has MIA done lately?

 

[WeAAsles]

Let MIA lead the way, WeAAz.. We have mechanics system wide transferring to MIA. Must be paradise there. Maybe the unlimited OT?

So ask yourself this, what has MIA done lately?

Remember the last protest in MIA? That was almost all Mechanics. 100’s of them making a nice racket.

Can’t seem to remember any JFK protests?

Did you guys ever do any?

 

[MetalMover]

http://queenstribune.com/transportation-workers-union-pickets-american-airlines-nyc/


http://laborpress.org/twu-locals-hold-massive-demonstration-against-american-airlines-outsourcing/

 

[MetalMover]

Maybe we should protest this too:

https://viewfromthewing.boardingare...o-be-entering-a-death-spiral-at-new-york-jfk/

 

[Tim Nelson]

You will find out how much better it is having weez and a couple other goofs blocked.

 

[WeAAsles]

http://queenstribune.com/transportation-workers-union-pickets-american-airlines-nyc/


http://laborpress.org/twu-locals-hold-massive-demonstration-against-american-airlines-outsourcing/

I remembered. Just seems to me like you were making a contest out of locations standing up and doing something is all so I busted your chops some.

BTW were you there?

Maybe we should protest this too:

https://viewfromthewing.boardingare...o-be-entering-a-death-spiral-at-new-york-jfk/

Metal I really am sorry about the shrinkage in JFK. Unfortunately that’s all about competition and some past bad management decisions though. Business decisions both good and bad are not always within our control.

BTW let me ask you about this text I got today. Do you feel that my friend is right and maybe I’m a shmuck for giving even a tiny ounce of a crap about you guys?

 

[WeAAsles]

Again you are confused

If I was confused you would have at least denied my accusation.

You didn’t deny it.

And your confusion about CWA allowing outsourced lower union represented employees doing the work for less was my point all along

Please try to kept up

I spoke directly to one of them who told me that the CWA represented them and that she took a pay cut when she went Envoy.

She told me they make about $9.50 per hour.

Does the CWA represent Wheelchair and Gate Check people working for Envoy?

How much has AA offered them and CWA agreed with for them to sign their first contract?

Financially they were better off without the CWA and remaining with Eulen shockingly.

 

[WeAAsles]

Between your original thoughts and your handler’s interjections you seem to get confused

Again I will repeat what I said

“All you have to do is outsource the work to TWU represented employees “

my point is the same as yours outsource the work to lower pay union represented employees doing the work for less was my point all along

I suspect you are merely a non flinching CWA supporter and not a paid lackey, drone for the organization? But you do take long enough between posts that you may be conferring with superiors?

CWA does A LOT of outsourcing to lower paid people from what I read in your Contracts. Not to mention that I believe you may have 18 classifications depending on location?

Seems to me that all the Labor organizations in the industry are guilty as sin of representing crap paid workers.

 

[WeAAsles]

Between your original thoughts and your handler’s interjections you seem to get confused

Again I will repeat what I said

“All you have to do is outsource the work to TWU represented employees “

my point is the same as yours outsource the work to lower pay union represented employees doing the work for less was my point all along

Let me try to gain clarity here since what you write is not always clear and direct.

Are you saying that you condemn the model of work being outsourced to lower paid individuals if they’re in the same Union or are you saying that it should be condoned?

At AA it’s the CWA that seems to be the worst offender at that type of business model IMO.

 

[ALUS78]

You ignorant, self-serving, wannabe voice of others. The TWU represents thousands of flight attendants at SWA who were forced to fly on those planes. Samuelsen, (i see you learned how to spell,) never called for a permanent ban of the MAX. He WAS and DOES look out for ALL TWU Members regardless of where they are employed. Just like your loser toothless "fighting" union cared only about its Boeing workers...who by the way, were never under scrutiny for the work they perform. Go back in to your little, insolent cave in LaGuardia....unlees you are just the Tim Nelson BOT we suspect. And if it is you PINKY...loving the bashing of you on the 513 group facebook page. More and more have figured you out...a non-member with zero support.

Say what??? The only thing he looks out for is dues anybody who thinks anything else is truly ignorant. Again you have no idea what your talking about, you keep putting your foot in your mouth deeper and deeper

 

[ALUS78]

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Yeah he is fighting so hard for us. This ASSociation should have been dismantled, members were not allowed to vote on it.

hey LuvnThesky not one flight attendant was forced to fly any of the max's at LUV or AA.

I think lovethesky is Samuelsens secretary

 

[ALUS78]

All you have to do is outsource the work to TWU represented employees

You mean like Envoy?

 

[Tim Nelson]

You mean like Envoy?

unfortunately, Weez' union is awful. It contracted out thousands of jobs to envoy and convinced the iam to wipe out mainline for United Ground Services.
The TWU screwed all of us with envoy when the twu agreed to originate the B scale in this industry after Crandall agreed to make envoy a twu hub property.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Say what??? The only thing he looks out for is dues anybody who thinks anything else is truly ignorant. Again you have no idea what your talking about, you keep putting your foot in your mouth deeper and deeper

Also, Al, the IAM originated ready reserve, not delta. Iam originated it at HAL and USair. The IAM even originated weekend pt. They get zero benefits but pay full dues.