American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[Tim Nelson]

should

Lol nothing in mine maybe LUS doesn’t get it this week?

have claimed exempt, you would have gotten more.

 

[ALUS78]

Lol nothing in mine maybe LUS doesn’t get it this week?

I got mine $1,172 rat either someone is trying to tell you something or Fly works in payroll departmet

 

[B737 driver]

And the clueless just keep posting. We are our worst demise. Think about it gentlemen...

Sorry 652, the company did offer a contract extension to not push the line, even though we had the language for it. You know that. AMFA wants numbers membership growth just like any other union. Company tried to buy us. That was very early in the game.

 

[Shafted]

As anyone hear any rumors of Pittsburgh maintenance base being closed? Pittsburgh employees possibly being offered a package? That’s the word a few people here at DWH/DFW are passing around!

Anyone here anything like this?

 

[B737 driver]

As anyone hear any rumors of Pittsburgh maintenance base being closed? Pittsburgh employees possibly being offered a package? That’s the word a few people here at DWH/DFW are passing around!

Anyone here anything like this?

How many flights does Pittsburgh have a day? So who would support a downline for there Philadelphia, or Charlotte, or JFK?

 

[cltrat]

I got mine $1,172 rat either someone is trying to tell you something or Fly works in payroll departmet

It’s in there now what a windfall!
Man I sure feel appreciated

 

[Deleted member 14439]

As anyone hear any rumors of Pittsburgh maintenance base being closed? Pittsburgh employees possibly being offered a package? That’s the word a few people here at DWH/DFW are passing around!

Anyone here anything like this?

I have been hearing that for sometime now. Those 2200 overhaul heads the company wants are going to come from somewhere. Time will tell.

 

[WeAAsles]

As anyone hear any rumors of Pittsburgh maintenance base being closed? Pittsburgh employees possibly being offered a package? That’s the word a few people here at DWH/DFW are passing around!

Anyone here anything like this?

Word coming through the Grapevines for Fleet is that on the TWU side PHL is going to be restaffed since it’s now over our contractual flight threshold language. This also has zip to do with the grievance on file that Local 501 wrote that perhaps wasn’t written in the most congenial of fashions.

Hearing too that they “may” need more heads than those who are on the recall list?

A few PHL TWU recall guys have been buzzing out the info.

 

[WeAAsles]

I have been hearing that for sometime now. Those 2200 overhaul heads the company wants are going to come from somewhere. Time will tell.

The Company also said that people who are on the clock as of DOS will be able to continue working in their current Stations.

So it’s hard to believe the rumor unless they’re going to just have those guys hanging around there doing nothing at all for the rest of their lives?

 

[WeAAsles]

should

have claimed exempt, you would have gotten more.

Usually only broke ass bums have to hit that exemt button?

Just sayin.

 

[wings396]

I have to disagree with you on this one. Nothing worse than seeing all of the friggin taxes eat up anything of this type. I realize that it all balances out at the end of the year, but it feels much better seeing the true amount going into your account.
I've always done it, and can assure you that I'm not a Broke Ass Bum.

 

[WeAAsles]

I have to disagree with you on this one. Nothing worse than seeing all of the friggin taxes eat up anything of this type. I realize that it all balances out at the end of the year, but it feels much better seeing the true amount going into your account.
I've always done it, and can assure you that I'm not a Broke Ass Bum.

I’m ranking on Tim there Wings but you also just said it:

“I realize that it all balances out at the end of the year” anyway.

 

[Deleted member 14439]

The Company also said that people who are on the clock as of DOS will be able to continue working in their current Stations.

So it’s hard to believe the rumor unless they’re going to just have those guys hanging around there doing nothing at all for the rest of their lives?

I hear ya Weez. Purposeful mixed messages are being put out. The headcount reduction is no rumor. That information comes directly from the NC and, of course, we have seen the company unicorn statements on Jetnet. It is said there are 3 sides to every story. His side, her side and the truth. The question is, what is the truth?

 

[WeAAsles]

I hear ya Weez. Purposeful mixed messages are being put out. The headcount reduction is no rumor. That information comes directly from the NC and, of course, we have seen the company unicorn statements on Jetnet. It is said there are 3 sides to every story. His side, her side and the truth. The question is, what is the truth?

 

[WeAAsles]

Here you go hot shot Yakee
Article 27 .. B. MEDICAL AND DENTAL PLAN # 13 of the PSA CBA

Insurance, Retirement, and Other Benefits



In the event the Company determines that the Standard or Core design options provided for in this Agreement (each an “Option”) would be or become subject to an excise tax or other penalty included in The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA) or any excise tax or penalty which may replace the PPACA, under applicable law, (and thus become an “Affected Option”), the Company will meet and confer in good faith in order to reach an agreement with the Union concerning the minimum modification or modifications to the Affected Option necessary to avoid application of the excise tax or other penalty. The Company shall provide to the Union information that the Union reasonably requests, including actuarial reports, necessary for the Union’s design and consideration of such modifications. Unless otherwise agreed, any agreed modification shall become effective at the time the excise tax or penalty would become applicable in respect of the Affected Option (the “Affected Option Date”).

If the Company and the Union are unable to agree on modifications necessary to avoid the

application of the excise tax or other penalty on the Affected Option within ninety (90) days

after the initial meeting, the parties will select Arbitrator Bloch who will determine the

modifications to the design of the Affected Option that will become applicable. The

authority of Arbitrator Bloch is expressly limited to establishing those modifications to the

design of the Affected Option that will ensure that no excise tax or other penalty will apply.

If Arbitrator Bloch determines that no reasonably practical modification to the Affected

Option can guarantee that no excise tax or other penalty will apply, the Company shall have the right to terminate the availability of the Affected Option to the Passenger Service

employees. If, under the preceding sentence, the Company has terminated or would have the right to terminate the availability to the Passenger Service employees of the Standard and/or Core Option, the arbitrator will be empowered to designate an alternative Option design (a “New Option”) that is available from the Company provider and that replicates the

provisions of the Core Option to the greatest possible extent without causing the New Option to become subject to any excise tax or other penalty. In the event that the arbitrator has not issued a determination prior to the excise tax or penalty becoming due or if such penalty or excise tax is otherwise owed for any reason, notwithstanding any contrary provision of law, the Company shall be permitted to implement such modifications to the design of the Affected Option as it considers to be necessary to avoid the excise tax or penalty. The Company shall have a reasonable period of time following the issuance of the arbitrator’s

Article 27 – Insurance, Retirement, and Other Benefits

determination to implement the New Option. Notwithstanding the foregoing, the provisions

of this Paragraph B.13 shall not be effective if, after the effective date of this Agreement, the

Company enters into any new or amended collective bargaining agreement having a term of three (3) years or more with any union group that does not contain a provision substantially similar to this Paragraph.

If any Option is modified or eliminated pursuant to this Paragraph B.13, the parties will meet and confer to determine how the savings, if any, from such modifications will accrue to Passenger Service employees. The avoidance of any excise tax that would have otherwise been applied will not be considered in the calculation of any savings. If the parties cannot agree on whether cost savings exist or how to distribute said savings, the matter may be referred to an arbitrator as specified by the process in this Paragraph. The arbitrator’s

authority shall be limited to the issue of determining whether such savings exist and, if so, how such savings are to be distributed. The arbitrator shall have no other authority, and in no event shall the arbitrator order modifications to or reinstitution of a plan.

Did you have the same language as the IAM that specified the Medical rates paid would be equal by percentage to what they are currently paying?

I wasn’t talking about the excise Tax language. What I was talking about was language specifying your Medical rates.

I don’t recall CWA having much ammunition to put up any fight against your rates being raised to match what LAA was paying during your Negotiations?

Now I could be wrong because this is all just off the top of my head from only briefly reading here and there some of your language at the time which is a bit back now and I’m not LUS.

I think I do pretty good frankly for an LAA guy and Yakee don’t you think?