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The mediator set Peterson straight on that. Nobody wanted to waste their time so Peterson was advised of no more tin cap videos. Not sure if he was getting drunk or what but he was really getting out of line in his typical bi polar way. At least he took his one video offline, where the mirror behind him showed him in his undies.
No more tirades and Barbie tantrums from him, and no more "Guarantee TA by Christmas" again. Even Weez fell for that one.

Weren’t you the Kook that put out a video where you mentioned how delicious your Beer was?

I bet you drink Peroxide if you run out of Cold Duck.

 
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Why is everyone saying we will be getting a contract sooner than later? What are the indications? Tim chased CB and rez off of here so now we dont have their input

Lol
Al I don’t get ran off of a site. I’ve just been very busy, and in what spare time I have had the last few weeks, I’ve been helping a family member deal with some issues that now are good. But that was much more important to me than getting on here.
But I do send out regular email briefings, and will probably shoot one out tomorrow evening sometime. If you want on the email list just pm me on here your email address, and I’ll be glad to get you on it.

Aa far as negotiations this past week, which was focused on fleet scope, the company made it very clear that they want to shrink our head count over the life of the contract. The best our fleet numbers would be under their proposal would be the first year, then shrink from there. Very similar language that the cwa agreed to for the cs agents.

Our proposal protects everything we are doing today, and also grows our stations and numbers. So you can see by the comparisons, we are still pretty far apart on the scope article.
 
What exactly does the TWU and IAM negotiators do besides eat at restaurants every night.What exactly do they do during negotiations? I know the IAM guys probably plan how they are going to spend the extra 30k they gave themselves
Same at SWA we sent our ALR back to BWI to be a lead, no more steak dinners for him. I remember one time he does the local union meeting by video look like he was in his bedroom in pajamas.
 
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Al I don’t get ran off of a site. I’ve just been very busy, and in what spare time I have had the last few weeks, I’ve been helping a family member deal with some issues that now are good. But that was much more important to me than getting on here.
But I do send out regular email briefings, and will probably shoot one out tomorrow evening sometime. If you want on the email list just pm me on here your email address, and I’ll be glad to get you on it.

Aa far as negotiations this past week, which was focused on fleet scope, the company made it very clear that they want to shrink our head count over the life of the contract. The best our fleet numbers would be under their proposal would be the first year, then shrink from there. Very similar language that the cwa agreed to for the cs agents.

Our proposal protects everything we are doing today, and also grows our stations and numbers. So you can see by the comparisons, we are still pretty far apart on the scope article.
Thank you, i dont.understand this rumor that everything is in place or a march contract especially after your post.Why are negotiations all over the country instead of one place say DC
 
Thank you, i dont.understand this rumor that everything is in place or a march contract especially after your post.Why are negotiations all over the country instead of one place say DC
The NMB and the Mediator schedules dates, time and places.

The company nor the union controls that.
 
Same at SWA we sent our ALR back to BWI to be a lead, no more steak dinners for him. I remember one time he does the local union meeting by video look like he was in his bedroom in pajamas.
WN got approval for a proving run. OAK-HNL Tuesday morning I’ve heard.
 
Thank you, i dont.understand this rumor that everything is in place or a march contract especially after your post.Why are negotiations all over the country instead of one place say DC
everything has been in place. He doesnt know. He gets everything from secondhand shops. These goofs cost us catering and lavs when they walked away from a take it or leave it offer that included ALL current scope because the executive team didnt want fleet done ahead of mx.
If that path was chosen, they should have allowed us to vote. Thats my whole beef about thier lies. Whats the fuss about a vote?
If any ta is bad then they can recommend a no. But they are afraid that the majority will call their bullchiat.
 
Thank you, i dont.understand this rumor that everything is in place or a march contract especially after your post.Why are negotiations all over the country instead of one place say DC
Al
Your stating that you don’t understand this rumor?? Ok, look your free to believe who you want, that’s fine with me. But it does take some people longer than others to realize who is blowing smoke up their ass.

I have said in my briefings that we are at a point in negotiations that things could get done the next time we meet. But we are also on the major issues ( scope & insurance) where it could take another year. Thats frustrating to hear I know, but thats just how big these issues are.

As I Have said in the past, our first goal is to protect everything we are doing today. The company as of last week has Never, and I mean Never offered us in a written proposal what we are performing today in our 40 stations. If they had done that, then that would have been something we would have had to seriously consider for our scope.
Again, believe whoever you want. Some of us IAM and TWU care to brief and explain what is going on after each meeting. You can believe those post, or believe the rumors. I do realize some would rather go with the rumors. Our info can be rather boring sometimes compared to the rumors.
 
everything has been in place. He doesnt know. He gets everything from secondhand shops. These goofs cost us catering and lavs when they walked away from a take it or leave it offer that included ALL current scope because the executive team didnt want fleet done ahead of mx.
If that path was chosen, they should have allowed us to vote. Thats my whole beef about thier lies. Whats the fuss about a vote?
If any ta is bad then they can recommend a no. But they are afraid that the majority will call their bullchiat.
proof
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noun
  1. 1.
    evidence or argument establishing or helping to establish a fact or the truth of a statement.
    "you will be asked to give proof of your identity"
    synonyms: evidence, verification, corroboration, authentication, confirmation, certification, validation, attestation, demonstration, substantiation, witness, testament; More
 
Okay, what would be the reasoning?
http://www.nmb.gov/services/mediation/frequently-asked-questions-mediation/

MEDIATION PROCESS
12. Q: How are mediators assigned to cases?
A: When an application for mediation is received, the Deputy Chief of Staff and Senior Mediators consult concerning case assignment. They consider a variety of factors, including individual work loads, mediator availability, schedules, desires of the parties, the history of a given mediator with the parties, mediator background, complexity of the case, and other factors.

13. Q: What kind of background or experience do the NMB mediators have?
A: NMB mediators typically come from either Union or Company backgrounds and have extensive labor relations experience in either the rail or airline industries. Mediator biographies may be found on the NMB web site.

14. Q: During the mediation process, what is the role of the mediator?
A: The role of the mediator is to assist the parties with productive dialog on their issues. The mediator can and will use a variety of techniques to ensure this does occur.

15. Q: Can the NMB determine where the parties will meet when they are in mediation?
A: The courts have held that the NMB has the authority to establish where and when the parties will meet while in mediation. Normally, however, the meeting site and dates are mutually agreed upon among the parties and the mediator.

16. Q: Can the NMB determine when and/or how often the parties will meet when they are in mediation?
A: Again, meetings are normally established by mutual agreement among the parties and the mediator, but during mediation the NMB does have the authority to dictate when the parties will meet, for how long they will meet, and when meetings will be recessed.

17. Q: How long does mediation last?
A: There is no time limit for the mediation process. It can take just a few meetings, or it can take many months, depending upon the complexity of the negotiations and many other factors unique to each contract negotiation. The NMB has the authority to decide when and if to end mediation. Under the RLA, the NMB ceases mediation efforts when it concludes that all reasonable efforts to reach a voluntary agreement through mediation have failed.

18. Q: What does “status quo” mean?
A: “Status quo” is used to describe the terms of the contract in place at the beginning of direct negotiations. During direct negotiations, mediated negotiations, and any cooling off periods after mediated negotiations, neither party may violate the status quo by making unilateral changes in wages, benefits, or working conditions.

19. Q: Why does the NMB Recess a case during mediation?
A: Recess is one of the many tools a mediator uses in managing a Mediation case. If a case is recessed by a mediator, it is for a specific purpose related to the particular facts of the given case.
 
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