American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[Tim Nelson]

And tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow.

Don’t you just love those suckers Tim?

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about two weeks

 

[OldGuy@AA]

My guess is that you don’t fully understand the IAM language either.

Not much to get wrong. LUS can outsource 50% aircraft overhaul. LAA can outsource 35%. LUS medical is superior coverage with lower premiums. So what am I not understanding?

 

[WeAAsles]

Not much to get wrong. LUS can outsource 50% aircraft overhaul. LAA can outsource 35%. LUS medical is superior coverage with lower premiums. So what am I not understanding?

US is 50% of billable hours of heavy maintenance, no line can be outsourced though. AA is 35% of the Maintenance budget.

And yes IAM has the superior Medical. So why aren’t we all supporting adding that on to TWU Members rather than trying to pressure the IAM to dump it for OUR expediency?

 

[Racer X]

Not much to get wrong. LUS can outsource 50% aircraft overhaul. LAA can outsource 35%. LUS medical is superior coverage with lower premiums. So what am I not understanding?

I’m not an officionado on the Mtc language, but the way I have heard it explained is that the LUS although it is a higher % it is still more beneficial than the LAA lower % due to the language associated with the percentages. You should probably double check me on that though.

 

[WeAAsles]

I’m not an officionado on the Mtc language, but the way I have heard it explained is that the LUS although it is a higher % it is still more beneficial than the LAA lower % due to the language associated with the percentages. You should probably double check me on that though.

Although I’ve found that unfortunately most people really don’t want to do the heavy lifting and research their own false claims instead of carrying on believing what fits their agenda instead, I also continue to hold out hope and keep trying.

Here are the links to the two contracts wrapped neatly in one little click. The information Old Guy is looking for can be found on page 132 of the IAM AMT CBA.

(Will he actually go and read it though? :-( )

https://www.iamdl142.org/us-airways/

 

[OldGuy@AA]

I’m not an officionado on the Mtc language, but the way I have heard it explained is that the LUS although it is a higher % it is still more beneficial than the LAA lower % due to the language associated with the percentages. You should probably double check me on that though.

Yes that is correct. Our percentage is based on money spent and not man hours. This is very hard to keep track of obviously. LUS is based on man hours. We have been told that the language the association agreed on will be based on man hours which is easier to track. Thanks for pointing that out.

 

[Racer X]

No

Yes that is correct. Our percentage is based on money spent and not man hours. This is very hard to keep track of obviously. LUS is based on man hours. We have been told that the language the association agreed on will be based on man hours which is easier to track. Thanks for pointing that out.

No problem.

 

[Matt1200]

I was wondering if Pittsburgh will survive the next contract?

 

[Deleted member 14439]

I was wondering if Pittsburgh will survive the next contract?

Matt didn't you hear? No one will lose their job or be displaced from their station according to Mr. Parker. Of course he has also been preaching an ILC ASAP. "We will build a table to negotiate 24/7". Latest Association update has us losing 2500 M&R jobs. I`d put money on PIT not surviving 90 days post JCBA. Just my opinion.

 

[Matt1200]

I don’t trust anything this management team tells us!!!

 

[Deleted member 14439]

I don’t trust anything this management team tells us!!!

Unfortunately neither do I. They have lost all credibility.

 

[swamt]

Matt didn't you hear? No one will lose their job or be displaced from their station according to Mr. Parker. Of course he has also been preaching an ILC ASAP. "We will build a table to negotiate 24/7". Latest Association update has us losing 2500 M&R jobs. I`d put money on PIT not surviving 90 days post JCBA. Just my opinion.

Just so you guys know; Our management is using your loss of 2500 layoffs or rifs as a tool over here. Is it really part of your current offer to rid of 2500 mechanics if the current offer is voted in???
They are telling mechanics that AA is offering you guys the wages they are offering because they are also getting rid of 2500 of you, is this true or false???

I don’t trust anything this management team tells us!!!

Trust "NOTHING" sir...

 

[Colonel.Ramp]

I don't buy that. Sounds like a ploy to deny you wage increases.

 

[dfw gen]

Just so you guys know; Our management is using your loss of 2500 layoffs or rifs as a tool over here. Is it really part of your current offer to rid of 2500 mechanics if the current offer is voted in???
They are telling mechanics that AA is offering you guys the wages they are offering because they are also getting rid of 2500 of you, is this true or false???



Trust "NOTHING" sir...

We dont have an offer. Lots of rumors but thats it. When if ever we see something could be a different story. Even if there are 2500 lost, that still leaves over 11,000 still a lot more then at southwest.

 

[2ndGENAMT]

Just so you guys know; Our management is using your loss of 2500 layoffs or rifs as a tool over here. Is it really part of your current offer to rid of 2500 mechanics if the current offer is voted in???
They are telling mechanics that AA is offering you guys the wages they are offering because they are also getting rid of 2500 of you, is this true or false???



Trust "NOTHING" sir...

You would have to ask the Executive Negotiating Committee whoever that is. They are the ones crunching the revenue flow numbers and that is really all that matters to them!