American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

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And what do you think in our case at SWA when we haven't had a deal in 6 years. And they are offering most of our back pay , a 7 dollar an hour raise and 6 months of backpay to April 1-th on the new pay scale, and no loss in scope. If you look at some of the hot heads 1 to 5 years on the job, haven't even begin to pay their dues. If you can believe social media.
I’m sorry....I don’t know much of anything regarding your agreement.
 
A more accurate analogy may be that there is a man eating a ham sandwich being told by another man eating steak not to accept the hamburger because he should wait until he gets the steak.
Your analogy is the guy eating the ham sandwich telling the guy to give up his steak....saying “ I’m eating a Ham sandwich WHY CANT YOU”?
My analogy was for ALL to eat steak forever.
 
Not a spin....you just don’t want to answer. But that’s ok. I’ll still answer tour questions
I answered. It’s ok if you can’t comprehend my friend. You’ve got yours and that’s ok too. We will wait till the Ass feels they have done the best they can. Until then. enjoy your benefits. I would if I were in your shoes, my friend.
 
Your analogy is the guy eating the ham sandwich telling the guy to give up his steak....saying “ I’m eating a Ham sandwich WHY CANT YOU”?
My analogy was for ALL to eat steak forever.

The guy eating that ham sandwich knows the steak was taken off the menu under the new owners of the restaurant. The guy eating the steak hopes they order more. In the meantime the guy with the ham sandwich can't order the hamburger because he's being told their trying to get the owners to change their mind and order steak. So just wait and keep eating that sandwich.

We'd all love the steak, but it's being taken off the menu.
 
How bout you show the menu to the membership and let us decide what we’d like to order. We don’t need Daddy to decide for us.
 
I keep seeing this statement and would like to know in your opinion why.
imo it just doesnt make sense to contract out the servicing and negotiating of your contract with a 3rd party, whether the organization is the iam, twu, amfa, ibt. AMP insources the job.
 
The guy eating that ham sandwich knows the steak was taken off the menu under the new owners of the restaurant. The guy eating the steak hopes they order more. In the meantime the guy with the ham sandwich can't order the hamburger because he's being told their trying to get the owners to change their mind and order steak. So just wait and keep eating that sandwich.

We'd all love the steak, but it's being taken off the menu.
Now you’re just being plain silly
 
All this talk about Steak.

Because of the MERGER. Which meant American Airlines AND USAirways I’m eating Steak with a marvelous side every night. The only thing I’m not eating yet is the desert. I’ll be eating the desert in due time.

No our Negotiators on BOTH sides do not and should not bring back any offer until that offer becomes an agreement at this time. I for sure as hell do not want buyers remorse.
 
I answered. It’s ok if you can’t comprehend my friend. You’ve got yours and that’s ok too. We will wait till the Ass feels they have done the best they can. Until then. enjoy your benefits. I would if I were in your shoes, my friend.
Ok. If you say so. Like I said ....I’ll continue to answer questions of me... you can continue with ......” because”.
 
How bout you show the menu to the membership and let us decide what we’d like to order. We don’t need Daddy to decide for us.
Lol....why would you want to be limited to just one side of the menu? I’d like for you to have anything on the menu.
 
All this talk about Steak.

Because of the MERGER. Which meant American Airlines AND USAirways I’m eating Steak with a marvelous side every night. The only thing I’m not eating yet is the desert. I’ll be eating the desert in due time.

No our Negotiators on BOTH sides do not and should not bring back any offer until that offer becomes an agreement at this time. I for sure as hell do not want buyers remorse.
LOL The “Steak” thread sure has taken on. Life of its own. TOO FUNNY
 
I’d like it if someone can explain this part of the last update to me?

“The company’s negotiating committee continues to make proposals that contradict what their Chairman and CEO Doug Parker and President Robert Isom have publicly promised our members from the beginning of negotiations. In stark contrast, American’s proposal will eliminate 2,500 AMT jobs, not include facilities maintenance work protections and allows the outsourcing of almost any fleet service work.”

This is the first time I have heard anything about any proposal from the Company that would give them the ability to “Outsource almost ANY Fleet Service work”

That’s the part I’m having a problem with and would like explained and that SHOULD have been explained in the “Official” update?
 
All this talk about Steak.

Because of the MERGER. Which meant American Airlines AND USAirways I’m eating Steak with a marvelous side every night. The only thing I’m not eating yet is the desert. I’ll be eating the desert in due time.

No our Negotiators on BOTH sides do not and should not bring back any offer until that offer becomes an agreement at this time. I for sure as hell do not want buyers remorse.
To some here, they are being "force fed" chipped beef and spam, while being held captive by the unions.

Rigged Corporate Bankruptcy Laws were used as tool to take the steak off the menu by the respective COMPANIES long ago. Now, these posters expect us all to believe that this all the union(s) fault. They want us to ignore the facts, and expect us all to march with them in lock-step, like a battalion of little brainless soldiers.

Classic tactics of diversion, division, and disinformation!
 
LOL The “Steak” thread sure has taken on. Life of its own. TOO FUNNY

Racer I know that you don’t have any control over how they’re written but I think it has reached a point though where the “Official” updates have become almost intolerable. That absolutely is causing some of the loopiness you’re seeing on this page.

After reading Peterson say that things seem to be progressing along well it’s incredibly contradictory from what is being put out by the Association.

It appears as if the two sides are really not on the same page at least when it comes to how to inform the Membership. It’s like I’m watching two different Movies on the same screen?
 
Racer I know that you don’t have any control over how they’re written but I think it has reached a point though where the “Official” updates have become almost intolerable. That absolutely is causing some of the loopiness you’re seeing on this page.

After reading Peterson say that things seem to be progressing along well it’s incredibly contradictory from what is being put out by the Association.

It appears as if the two sides are really not on the same page at least when it comes to how to inform the Membership. It’s like I’m watching two different Movies on the same screen?
I can see where the confusion comes from. I’m not so quick to say that GP was incorrect when his memo came out. I’m also not going to say the ASSOC does not put out accurate info.. Negotiations sometimes turn on a dime.. it very well may have been going well that week and now ....Well, NOT SO GOOD. Although they appear contradictory, Both could actually be accurate for when they were put out.
 
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