American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[cltrat]

Week get your ass on the phone to 700 and do as Tim says.Chop chop

 

[WeAAsles]

Week get your ass on the phone to 700 and do as Tim says.Chop chop

Weird. Just found out he’s in that group and was able to respond and just did.

Have no clue why he needed to bug me about it?

 

[NYer]

I see AMP is becoming an issue to contend with!

Card drives have been used in the past to garner attention and this time around it seems to have given credence to the tactic based on more information being released and the joint letter coming out.

It's too bad this level of information sharing didn't happen sooner. It may have mitigated the current frustration levels.

 

[dfw gen]

Card drives have been used in the past to garner attention and this time around it seems to have given credence to the tactic based on more information being released and the joint letter coming out.

It's too bad this level of information sharing didn't happen sooner. It may have mitigated the current frustration levels.

As a membership we are tired if bring treated like mushrooms and fed ****. The unfortunate reality is that yes you are correct if they actually treated us with any type of respect instead of contempt they would not be on the verge of a reveloution.
Let them eat cake she said.

 

[Tim Nelson]

As a membership we are tired if bring treated like mushrooms and fed ****. The unfortunate reality is that yes you are correct if they actually treated us with any type of respect instead of contempt they would not be on the verge of a reveloution.
Let them eat cake she said.

i wish you guys success. Imo, better to wait for a jcba then just vote in the twu by triggering a vote. But if i were a mx id go for amp, or twu. In fact, if the twu was smart, it would solicit a writein campaign if there is a vote cuz no way in hell will the association win.

 

[dfw gen]

i wish you guys success. Imo, better to wait for a jcba then just vote in the twu by triggering a vote. But if i were a mx id go for amp, or twu. In fact, if the twu was smart, it would solicit a writein campaign if there is a vote cuz no way in hell will the association win.

Just about begged the twu to start a drive. They are not interested.

 

[swamt]

i wish you guys success. Imo, better to wait for a jcba then just vote in the twu by triggering a vote. But if i were a mx id go for amp, or twu. In fact, if the twu was smart, it would solicit a writein campaign if there is a vote cuz no way in hell will the association win.

Fuk the TWU. They are out as well as the IAM. They had their time to present and failed. AMP will prevail. Watch and learn...

 

[MetalMover]

Exactly, how should your card drive effect negotiations other than speeding it up I strongly doubt it does anything to contract content and language,at least it shouldnt.The Ass hould be trying to avoid section 6

Agree.
And it IS speeding negotiations up!

 

[MetalMover]

While I understand the intention behind the letter, personally I think it was a very dumb move again to acknowledge the distraction. Sorry Metal.

WeAAz, it very difficult for them to NOT acknowledge a card drive....especially when they are getting "so God-darned close!"

 

[MetalMover]

you guys might ought to get busy in clt then,I've spoke to a few MX and none had heard of a card drive

Right now it is a TWU effort.

 

[cltrat]

Right now it is a TWU effort.

copy,just thought I’d let you know
Hope you guys get what you seek and the contract you deserve

 

[Traymark]

Card drives have been used in the past to garner attention and this time around it seems to have given credence to the tactic based on more information being released and the joint letter coming out.

It's too bad this level of information sharing didn't happen sooner. It may have mitigated the current frustration levels.

A couple things
If you think this card drive is a tactic to garner attention, you are as delusional as the hierarchy of the ASSociation.
I'll help you, this card drive is to do one thing.
Eliminate the TWU/IAM Association.

Also, if you believe sharing more information would have mitigated the frustration and prevented the drive, see the above ^^^ underlined^^^. If anything the increased sharing of very poor information, (because lets face it, thats all there's been in the 3 ~ plus years of the Association), would have increased frustration and the drive probably starts sooner than it did.

The AMP drive grows and gets stronger , every hour , every day. With every stupid response by the Association I see more people that are woke by just how inept they've been. The Association has been one of the strongest AMP organizers so far. It's really quite remarkable to behold.

 

[Tim Nelson]

A couple things
If you think this card drive is a tactic to garner attention, you are as delusional as the hierarchy of the ASSociation.
I'll help you, this card drive is to do one thing.
Eliminate the TWU/IAM Association.

Also, if you believe sharing more information would have mitigated the frustration and prevented the drive, see the above ^^^ underlined^^^. If anything the increased sharing of very poor information, (because lets face it, thats all there's been in the 3 ~ plus years of the Association), would have increased frustration and the drive probably starts sooner than it did.

The AMP drive grows and gets stronger , every hour , every day. With every stupid response by the Association I see more people that are woke by just how inept they've been. The Association has been one of the strongest AMP organizers so far. It's really quite remarkable to behold.

Danker writing that letter prolly means he is now illegitimate now. Sucking up GP and Sito is distasteful.. OTOH, hopefully amp isnt a one man band that gets paranoid at legit questions.

 

[WeAAsles]

Agree.
And it IS speeding negotiations up!

WeAAz, it very difficult for them to NOT acknowledge a card drive....especially when they are getting "so God-darned close!"

I don’t think it’s speeding anything up and even if it was is speeding things up a wise idea?

I don’t think it’s doing anything at the moment except maybe giving the Company a nice greedy eye put on it. You can push the TWU and IAM as much as you want but you aren’t going to push the Company.

If anything you “could” “maybe” give them a reason (excuse) to completely shut down talks if they think you “really” are gaining momentum? Why would they continue if they’re not sure the Association is going to have the authority to complete the work?

The reason you think you’re suddenly seeing movement again is because the Company finished compiling the data they needed from posting proposals online and waiting to read our reactions and it’s time to move again.

They also probably would like this to be concluded before our Contracts become amendable in September and then they can move on to focusing on the next group of talks with the other workgroups (Keeping their friend Jerry Glass working and collecting a paycheck)

 

[Tim Nelson]

I don’t think it’s speeding anything up and even if it was is speeding things up a wise idea?

I don’t think it’s doing anything at the moment except maybe giving the Company a nice greedy eye put on it. You can push the TWU and IAM as much as you want but you aren’t going to push the Company.

If anything you “could” “maybe” give them a reason (excuse) to completely shut down talks if they think you “really” are gaining momentum? Why would they continue if they’re not sure the Association is going to have the authority to complete the work?

The reason you think you’re suddenly seeing movement again is because the Company finished compiling the data they needed from posting proposals online and waiting to read our reactions and it’s time to move again.

They also probably would like this to be concluded before our Contracts become amendable in September and then they can move on to focusing on the next group of talks with the other workgroups (Keeping their friend Jerry Glass working and collecting a paycheck)

the company wants a contract. While I may agree with you that now isnt the time to hit any restart buttons, im inclined to think that the mx deal will not keep all scope. In that sense, i could understand mx creating amp, much like I tried to stall our healthcare loss with a dol appeal. I mean, if Gary Peterson and Danker kept the scope, they would have come out with a TA and killed off amp. For that reason, amp makes sense.