American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[Tim Nelson]

Looks like poor Weez hitched himself to wrong wagon

look, we need weez to stay on our wagon. He blows up fb and here with views that benefit lus. Kudos to Lehive for offering the fll future gig, although 700 may have also worked it out. Not saying weez was a big twu fish lehive bagged but he has been used as the "trojan horse"for the iam to pacify and rope a dope twu members.
I especially liked how he calmed the masses down by declaring that he gets things firsthand and that a deal would be had quickly (early 2017), then he teamed up with Gary Peterson to declare a TA by Christmas.
And every time someone questions him, he says the longer we wait, the more money we will get. Then he says if we would have signed in '16, we would have missed all the Delta raises. Its the classic "Bait and Switch" and I aint mad at him. If I were TWU id be pissed at him.

When i met him, he voluntarily showed me all the calls he received that day alone, and i listened to some recordings. I can say 100% that he is a conduit with alex and many others.
I respect NYer for being honest with his membership, and I can appre ciate him holding Sito and Alex accountable but im on the iam sideline with Weez.

 

[ALUS78]

our ta or offer will NOT be voted down. After a jcba, im sure many may want to follow the same path that our stews, pilots, and mx took.

In a couple months, i know of 2 raids commencing on iam properties, not including the mx raid. Be watchful. They think this is a game and they mess with the wrong people. Just dont listen.

Tim is Sito aware of this go fund me and card drive.Will he bring a TA sooner than later because of it and will it be compromised

 

[ALUS78]

Tim, holding fleet back? From what?
Fleet is very close to industry leading right now, MX is far far behind the industry leaders.
As far as fleet not subject to globalism, no need to go global to replace fleet, those folks are walking across our border daily ready to work for peanuts, no A&P needed, just a strong and willing back.

If you had you're own union it wouldn't be so quick to give your jobs to fleet ..
Push backs, riding brakes and positioning

 

[Buck]

Might be someones game but pretty amusing

Yes pretty amusing, seeing how the other donar was Jesus Christ for $5.

 

[Buck]

Lol...MX is the reason fleet is making the $$$ they are....I can see highschool kids being recruited, beginning asap for less $$$ or total outsourcing...pay by push, like foreign airlines do in the US...plenty of companies provide cargo and pushbacks....no license no problem...not like MX -A&P licenses required, and FAA regulations...

So this brings a question up that I have been asking for many years. On the Aircraft Overhaul Docks, at the time of finalization of Bankruptcy? or Merger, or a T/A etc.. will an A&P License be a requirement?

There a few welders that have taken the time to get their A&P but there are quite a few that work on the aircraft without a license.

( In the near future, 80 slot will open in Aircraft Overhaul.details later)

 

[Jester]

If you had you're own union it wouldn't be so quick to give your jobs to fleet ..
Push backs, riding brakes and positioning

Those days of dedicated MX tug slugs on push backs are gone. Not as if it requires some certification or specialized license where the Company sees the value of someone to sit on a push tug upon arrival keeping the seat warm as the rampers load the plane.

 

[ALUS78]

Those days of dedicated MX tug slugs on push backs are gone. Not as if it requires some certification or specialized license where the Company sees the value of someone to sit on a push tug upon arrival keeping the seat warm as the rampers load the plane.

My point was those jobs were given to fleet without much of a fight because the union was getting the dues anyway

 

[B737 driver]

Tim is Sito aware of this go fund me and card drive.Will he bring a TA sooner than later because of it and will it be compromised

He will do it, if he sees they are in real danger of being replaced and he loses his comfortable union job.

 

[WeAAsles]

My point was those jobs were given to fleet without much of a fight because the union was getting the dues anyway

Each job given to Fleet by Maintenance is a loss to the Union in dues revenue. And historically AMT’s reach TOS in almost half the time an FSC does even further eroding any dues collection.

TWU = 2 Times a Members hourly rate of pay contributed monthly.

 

[ALUS78]

Each job given to Fleet by Maintenance is a loss to the Union in dues revenue. And historically AMT’s reach TOS in almost half the time an FSC does even further eroding any dues collection.

TWU = 2 Times a Members hourly rate of pay contributed monthly.

We were all sacrificing during those times even the union, dues wise somewhat but not as much as us.maybe that's why we didn't get a calendar that year dont recall if they put the jet up for sale

 

[ALUS78]

Each job given to Fleet by Maintenance is a loss to the Union in dues revenue. And historically AMT’s reach TOS in almost half the time an FSC does even further eroding any dues collection.

TWU = 2 Times a Members hourly rate of pay contributed monthly.

Maybe the union should have tried harder freakin pushovers.This card drive is real for now let see what the coming weeks bring

 

[gulfcoast1]

Tim, holding fleet back? From what?
Fleet is very close to industry leading right now, MX is far far behind the industry leaders.
As far as fleet not subject to globalism, no need to go global to replace fleet, those folks are walking across our border daily ready to work for peanuts, no A&P needed, just a strong and willing back.

Anyone wanting to work for AA has to have lived in the USA for at least 5 years. It is not a AA rule, it is a USPS rule for any vendor who handles mail. Envoy does not handle mail to my knowledge and I think does employ people who have not lived in the USA for 5 years. I am sure you are familiar with how detailed the background checks are.

 

[NYer]

My point was those jobs were given to fleet without much of a fight because the union was getting the dues anyway

Currently there is no fight, TWU Fleet language allows the choice : Artice 11 "...In addition to the above duties, performs the following duties as assigned: deicing of aircraft; cleaning of aircraft windshields; pushing out/towing of aircraft and related guideman functions; connecting/removing ground power and ground start units."

AMT CBA Article 11:"In addition to the above duties, may perform the following other duties as assigned such as but not limited to: requesting parts, cleaning work area, performing FOD walks, cleaning of aircraft windshields; connecting/removing ground power and ground start units; pushing out/towing of aircraft, and related guideman functions.

 

[AANOTOK]

Lol...MX is the reason fleet is making the $$$ they are.....

Oh really, well give yourself a pat on the back...I make some decent money.

 

[AANOTOK]

We were all sacrificing during those times even the union, dues wise somewhat but not as much as us.maybe that's why we didn't get a calendar that year dont recall if they put the jet up for sale

Yes, and we didn't have our Union picnic/bbq.