American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

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dfw gen said:
like we are about to get duped again? this time by the association.
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we are just screwed. nobody is getting duped.
Nothing we can do about it nor is there anything your craft wants to do now. After the jcba is signed, i would be shocked if mx didnt vote out the association.
It is better for fleet. We pretty much been carrying your craft as a big burden to us. We would have had a ta last year if you guys werent on our coattails. Nothing against you guys but your craft is global and the company will scale off some more of your jobs for pedro.
Sorry
 
Tim Nelson said:
we are just screwed. nobody is getting duped.
Nothing we can do about it nor is there anything your craft wants to do now. After the jcba is signed, i would be shocked if mx didnt vote out the association.
It is better for fleet. We pretty much been carrying your craft as a big burden to us. We would have had a ta last year if you guys werent on our coattails. Nothing against you guys but your craft is global and the company will scale off some more of your jobs for pedro.
Sorry
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Your an idiot.
 
Tim Nelson said:
we are just screwed. nobody is getting duped.
Nothing we can do about it nor is there anything your craft wants to do now. After the jcba is signed, i would be shocked if mx didnt vote out the association.
It is better for fleet. We pretty much been carrying your craft as a big burden to us. We would have had a ta last year if you guys werent on our coattails. Nothing against you guys but your craft is global and the company will scale off some more of your jobs for pedro.
Sorry
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Your a fool.
 
1AA said:
Not in 2003.

Uh, pay attention. The 17% was the 2003 sham concession. There was no BK filing in 2003. A big threat from Carty and Jim Little if we did not take the 17% cut plus other concessions. The union should have let the company file. Others in BK gave up less and recovered quicker than us. Exception was the airlines that no longer exist. So we got duped in 2003 and gave up more than other airlines and then we got wacked again with the BK filing.
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The difference being in 2003 we took a bunch of hits without snap backs. Stupid.. But...we did get 10 more years in the pension, basically 1000 more/month when retirement.
 
1AA said:
I wonder if he was even employed at AA in 2003? He seems lost in his recollection of the facts pertaining to the 2003 concessions.
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You have a good point there 1AA. Yea he is a bit loss on his recollections of events of the past indeed.
I will say I witnessed the 2003 concessions live with you guys in Tulsa when AMFA was doing the card drive in around that time. A few of us from SWA flew up and visited with you guys at the card drive rally to answer questions and such directly from the members about AMFA and how they work. This was back when I met Brett for the first time and he told me he was currently applying to work at SWA. And BTW; The first visit we did with AMFA info meetings in Tulsa turned out very rough for the TWU as some were escorted off by the po-po for what they pulled. Good times though...

Phoenix757767 said:
Total BS. Delusional much?
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Really? And what do you have to back your quote?? Try again there junior.
 
Tim Nelson said:
we are just screwed. nobody is getting duped.
Nothing we can do about it nor is there anything your craft wants to do now. After the jcba is signed, i would be shocked if mx didnt vote out the association.
It is better for fleet. We pretty much been carrying your craft as a big burden to us. We would have had a ta last year if you guys werent on our coattails. Nothing against you guys but your craft is global and the company will scale off some more of your jobs for pedro.
Sorry
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Fleet been carrying Mx? I don't think so there chief. Wrong again. Go sit in the corner with NY'er, he to has a loss of memory big time.
 
1986Mekanic said:
The difference being in 2003 we took a bunch of hits without snap backs. Stupid.. But...we did get 10 more years in the pension, basically 1000 more/month when retirement.
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The no snap backs is what I was screaming about back then. I could NOT believe that the TWU di not get any kind of snap back after agreeing to the concessions as the Pilots and F/A's did. Sad.
 
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