American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[AANOTOK]

Don’t worry guys; I’m sure CB will be along to gaslight you soon enough...

Coming to a forum near you...

 

[AANOTOK]

And to think there are some who still think this Association was/is a good thing...

 

[V.O. Reason]

The Fleet group is separate from the Maintenance as certified by the NMB. The fact they're still negotiating together is a choice by the Association.

Fleet having been tied to maint for so long has screwed us for a long time.
It needs to end the fleet group needs to move on

 

[V.O. Reason]

There is one issue that trumps those mentioned and your know first hand how important they are.

The biggest issue in the room would be the legal fiasco still facing the Association and something that needs to be addressed asking with the language on the open items.

Everyone seems to forget that is still a factor and probably the biggest one.

And in the meantime we get screwed and loose even more and more thanks to the union.
This is not coming to a close this year bet on it and AA is going to most likely be harmed by it which to me makes even less sense consider they have said they want to get this done.
We are being played on both sides.
Total BS

 

[AANOTOK]

Fleet having been tied to maint for so long has screwed us for a long time.
It needs to end the fleet group needs to move on

And who do you think calls that shot? I don't know, you may. But I do recall you folks trying to get it taking care of and didn't have the support...that's all I'll say about it.

 

[ALUS78]

And to think there are some who still think this Association was/is a good thing...

This frustrating to me i could imagine how the AA side feels.This is just ridiculous now someone should explain whats going it would appear negotiations are going backwards

 

[ALUS78]

Tim is reporting on FB that the union is holding up negotiations until company settles court case.With what is going on it doesnt sound to far fetched

 

[AANOTOK]

Tim is reporting on FB that the union is holding up negotiations until company settles court case.With what is going on it doesnt sound to far fetched

i would think the NMB has a little more clout than to allow that to happen. We know Tim's agenda...he said possible announcement last night and today it's union holdup, court case...not buying it.

 

[ALUS78]

i would think the NMB has a little more clout than to allow that to happen. We know Tim's agenda...he said possible announcement last night and today it's union holdup, court case...not buying it.

Then in your opinion whats going on here we are going backwards is this just total disfunction or what??

 

[ALUS78]

Then in your opinion whats going on here we are going backwards is this just total disfunction or what??

I think we deserve a better explanation.Did i say better how about just an explanation what did they do the last 2 f@@king weeks

 

[NYer]

Fleet having been tied to maint for so long has screwed us for a long time.
It needs to end the fleet group needs to move on

They haven't been tied for quite awhile. This current situation is by choice of the higher-ups.

 

[NYer]

Tim is reporting on FB that the union is holding up negotiations until company settles court case.With what is going on it doesnt sound to far fetched

It isn't.

 

[AANOTOK]

I honestly don't know Al. But either all the previous updates stating all was settled (pretty much) except those mentioned in yesterdays update were total lies, or yesterdays update is a complete lie. If I were to guess, I would say that the most recent update is full of holes. The NMB would not request more meetings if NOTHING or NO ONE moved on the most important articles. When all is said and done,I think Association is going to tell you what a great job they did considering what others in the industry have. They will not say the fines played any role. At this stage of the game, the NMB wouldn't hang around if they were going backwards. (All in my opinion)

 

[Talos]

i would think the NMB has a little more clout than to allow that to happen. We know Tim's agenda...he said possible announcement last night and today it's union holdup, court case...not buying it.

The TWU really owes its members a much better explanation for things as they sit now. You read the update and it looks as if it was written 2 years ago. WTF are they doing in there? Probably trying to negotiate there way out of the court problem which could cost us. This is getting to be like taxation without representation. This is a giant **** sandwich we're being fed by people concerned for themselves.

 

[Talos]

I honestly don't know Al. But either all the previous updates stating all was settled (pretty much) except those mentioned in yesterdays update were total lies, or yesterdays update is a complete lie. If I were to guess, I would say that the most recent update is full of holes. The NMB would not request more meetings if NOTHING or NO ONE moved on the most important articles. When all is said and done,I think Association is going to tell you what a great job they did considering what others in the industry have. They will not say the fines played any role. At this stage of the game, the NMB would hang around if they were going backwards. (All in my opinion)

I bet there was movement aanotok, probably not in our favor. The Association blows so much smoke up our asses it has become a guessing game.