American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[AANOTOK]

So if I'm to go by past updates and Gary's chart showing 90% was agreed upon, we were led to believe Scope, wages, healthcare and retirement were the only things needing to be T/A'd. Those were supposedly the sticking points...exactly what is going on other than lies from the Association. I'd rather have an update from the damn company.

 

[CremaDiLimone]

Are we going to be compensated for that? Nope, but the IAM leaders made sure their members will be taken care of. Nice job TWU!

the company agreed and has proposed giving lus assoc. members $3k for the pain of transitioning to laa insurance.

that's how you treat 'team' members.

 

[AANOTOK]

Exactly my point.

 

[swamt]

Consider all the groups involved....Fleet, GSE, AMT, Fac., Stores..... Lots of details.

Glad to see you finally agree that there is too many different groups within the same union. The mechanics need to get on their own so this **** won't happen again. For any group to be waiting for other groups to get done so they can vote on something is just ridiculous.

 

[dfw gen]

Not quite there, but progressing. Look for more dates to be scheduled.

What a bunch of ****. What progress was made over the last two weeks? New breakroom remodels? Move bulletin boards from the east wall to the west wall.
What a fucking joke this is!

 

[robbedagain]

On something this big, I don’t think Tim wrong.

Yet they progress not made on big items. Scope. Wages. Retirement. Healthcare

Next up. Oct 8 to 10

 

[1986Mekanic]

Ummm,, the only issues outstanding are scope, wages, retirement and healthcare. So what did they get accomplished? Ran up a decent bar bill and figured out which are their favorite hookers to get when they come back.

 

[CremaDiLimone]

bernie sanders chiming in:

Dear Mr. Parker:

I am writing to urge American Airlines to stop outsourcing U.S. jobs overseas and to bring jobs back to this country that are critical to the safety of passengers and your employees.

It is my understanding that labor contract negotiations have broken down out of your desire to save money by outsourcing and offshoring nearly 5,000 good-paying jobs. That is unacceptable. American Airlines must stop risking the safety of the flying public and its own workers just to make even more profits.

American Airlines continued failure to negotiate in good faith with its workers is an outrage that needs to come to an end. Instead of recognizing and addressing the concerns of workers, your management team has gone to great lengths to deny workers their rights to organize and bargain collectively and even moved to sue the TWU-IAM Association. In my view, American Airlines must do the right thing and agree on a fair contract to end over three years of limbo it has forced its workers to endure.

Let’s be clear. American Airlines is not a poor, struggling company. It is not going broke. In fact, last year it made $1.9 billion in profits. It had enough money to recently buy back $15 billion of its own stock. And American Airlines is a company that has repeatedly rewarded you with a compensation package as high as $31 million last year.

American Airlines disgraceful attempt to deny its union workers a fair contract is nothing more than corporate greed at its worst.

If American Airlines has enough money to buy back $15 billion of its own stock, it certainly has enough money to pay its union workers a decent wage with good benefits. And under no circumstances should it ever outsource jobs to low-wage countries with a track record of safety violations.

It is time for American Airlines to sit down with its workers in good faith and negotiate a contract that is fair and just for union workers that have made American Airlines the profitable company that it is today.

 

[swamt]

Not hearing anything, specifically the rhetoric, is a positive sign.

goin through the pipes right now. May announce tonight. Fingers crossed.

On something this big, I don’t think Tim wrong.

I don’t think Tim was far off on his statement, he did leak the news about the lump sum and pay raises, he has my attention!

You boys might want to change your sources. None of you have been correct so far and you all say you have very reliable "sources". In reality you are simply a mouthpiece for the union to keep delaying and not informing the membership what has taken place at the table.
Progress??? I see none. As someone else has already said here, we were ALL told and believe that only the biggie items were left and yet in the uninformed update (if that's what you wanna call it) they made "progress" on items other than outsourcing, pay rates, medical, retirement, pension, 401K, etc. Pathetically sad progress if any at all. Just more stalling and delays. I too will go along with others and say nothing this year as well...

Negotiations Update
September 27, 2019
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Negotiations continued at the National Mediation Board offices in Washington, DC this week. Some progress on issues other than Scope, Retirement, Healthcare and Wages was made. Your Executive Negotiators remain committed to achieving the best contract in the industry.

The Mediators scheduled additional dates at the Mediation Board offices October 8 through October 10. We are hopeful progress continues and increases at the next meeting.

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PDF version: Association-Bulletin-9/27/19Download

 

[swamt]

Ummm,, the only issues outstanding are scope, wages, retirement and healthcare. So what did they get accomplished? Ran up a decent bar bill and figured out which are their favorite hookers to get when they come back.

You guys might wanna file to see the LM2's for these nego's. BTW hookers always falls under misc. charges.

 

[paul1]

 

[NYer]

Thats a consideration for the last 4 years...

It is, but these last items have taken the bulk of that time. It isn't until now where there is even a possibility of movement from the rhetoric.

 

[Rogallo]

HAD ENOUGH YET?

 

[NYer]

So if I'm to go by past updates and Gary's chart showing 90% was agreed upon, we were led to believe Scope, wages, healthcare and retirement were the only things needing to be T/A'd. Those were supposedly the sticking points...exactly what is going on other than lies from the Association. I'd rather have an update from the damn company.

Exactly. Supposedly we were close to being done Beck then. They've met for 2 weeks and they say they progressed on things other the big stuff.

Doesn't add up.

 

[2ndGENAMT]

Some progress on issues other than Scope, Retirement, Healthcare and Wages was made.

Other than means the following articles will be shoved down the Associations throat by the lawsuit damages.