American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[bigjets]

Weird no updates yet?

 

[NYer]

Weird no updates yet?

Not really. We haven't been getting robust updates up to this point.

 

[dfw gen]

Weird no updates yet?

No actually an update from the association would be weird.

 

[1986Mekanic]

You guys are funny thinking theres gonna be an update... ROFLMAO.. Ludicrous!!!!

 

[dfw gen]

Not really. We haven't been getting robust updates up to this point.

Another reason amongst many others to dump the association.

 

[CremaDiLimone]

Doesn't matter what our contract says, if an airport authority mandates deicing is done by them, then that's who will do it.

We can't create language that holds an outside entity to our agreements. That's the reason the proposal is written as it is.

At this point, the cities mentioned in the proposal would keep deicing with an outside shot of DFW keeping it as well.

if municipalities are looking to earn money off private companies by using contract workers to deice....

i believe the pads can't be avoided. it's up to the airline to decide who will deice their own airplanes at the pads.

 

[NYer]

if municipalities are looking to earn money off private companies by using contract workers to deice....

i believe the pads can't be avoided. it's up to the airline to decide who will deice their own airplanes at the pads.

Don't think they're looking to make money as much as controlling and speeding up the takeoffs during bad weather.

 

[dfw gen]

Don't think they're looking to make money as much as controlling and speeding up the takeoffs during bad weather.

Kind of funny since they cant get the planes cleaned and loaded and off the gate.

 

[CremaDiLimone]

Safer bet would be Delta +3, on the Fleet side.

No retro.

right. delta +3%, after dl's +4% raise. that's exactly what i said.

i agree with others, no retro = no vote, especially if the chintzy $3k bonus isn't increased.

the company is insane if it believes laa voters to be happy with $3k, while proposing lus get $6k AND get to keep their insurance an additional year.

no retro would also incentivize the company to stall during it's future negotiations. why negotiate in a timely manner??

if no deal gets done/a no vote on T/A...if this is the case, hopefully the BOD gets involved and makes changes at the top. let parker/isom go manage air wisconsin.

 

[CremaDiLimone]

Don't think they're looking to make money as much as controlling and speeding up the takeoffs during bad weather.

speeding up the take-offs? with $17/hr contract workers?

sure.

 

[NYer]

right. delta +3%, after dl's +4% raise. that's exactly what i said.

i agree with others, no retro = no vote, especially if the chintzy $3k bonus isn't increased.

the company is insane if it believes laa voters to be happy with $3k, while proposing lus get $6k AND get to keep their insurance an additional year.

no retro would also incentivize the company to stall during it's future negotiations. why negotiate in a timely manner??

if no deal gets done/a no vote on T/A...if this is the case, hopefully the BOD gets involved and makes changes at the top. let parker/isom go manage air wisconsin.

Don't seem to understand the circumstances we're in, eh.

There won't be a retro to September, might as well get your head around that. You can make believe the signing bonus is your retro, if you'd like. Won't get both though.

It seems ridiculous how TWU people reason with themselves about the bonus. Let's see, let me not vote to get higher pay because LUS is getting $6K. I'll forgo getting more and help them keep their lower medical and more holidays than us. That'll show 'em.

What a ridiculous position to take.

 

[NYer]

speeding up the take-offs? with $17/hr contract workers?

sure.

What does pay have to do with anything.

We have guys making $17 and less... Planes still take off and land.

 

[Ground Interrupt]

Don't seem to understand the circumstances we're in, eh.

There won't be a retro to September, might as well get your head around that. You can make believe the signing bonus is your retro, if you'd like. Won't get both though.

It seems ridiculous how TWU people reason with themselves about the bonus. Let's see, let me not vote to get higher pay because LUS is getting $6K. I'll forgo getting more and help them keep their lower medical and more holidays than us. That'll show 'em.

What a ridiculous position to take.

 

[Ground Interrupt]

Ridiculous: LUS getting more money for having to accept AA medical while since the merger TWU has had to pay more money for medical. Think TWU members should be getting the extra money. Please explain.

 

[dfw gen]

Ridiculous: LUS getting more money for having to accept AA medical while since the merger TWU has had to pay more money for medical. Think TWU members should be getting the extra money. Please explain.

Try to explain how the iam is running the show. And we cant get guys to sign cards to dump the association. Unbeleivable. The twu is very happy with the situation