American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[dfw gen]

ridiculous. Stop the insanity. Didn't you realize that the company would use this crap in a district court? I'm glad it did because I want you and other IAM Officers to be more professional. This company isn't going to sit across a table from your handlers when you and other negotiation committee members are talking smack about destroying our company. Would you sit across from someone who talked to you that way? NOPE. In the meantime, 32,000 human beings go without pay raises and benefit increases because you and other $155,000 salary IAM Officers are being unprofessional. STOP IT!

Stop this madness! Move on some issues. The company proposal is industry leading as is, but if you kooks stop the madness, you should be able to finish the work and get some improvements like a medical cap, and maybe IAH and RSW, and a bit more wage. Stop threatening a healthy company, move off of some ridiculous issues and we will have a deal. Stop putting dues ahead of me and others you are representing. You gotta get off your high horse and do better math. You aren't going to get 20 more stations, for 63 total. NOT HAPPENING! Stop thinking about those 2,500 additional members but focus on the ones you already are paid to represent. Scrap the whole 20 more station crap and you might get IAH and RSW. You might get a cap on medical. We might get a wage bump.
That's about it. Otherwise, you guys did amazingly good on the other 40 items which all were improved upon.

Professional ? Your an idiot.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Professional ? Your an idiot.

I may be an idiot buy loyalist like you are the reason why this union is getting jammed up.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Did Samuelson's war on tearing this company up cost TWU members their July 4th holiday pay

And some dopey TWU members went on jetnet trashing Parker for his kind gesture on memorial day. Parker got no credit so maybe he will just make the TWU peeps pay for this mess.

Members wanna know

regards,

 

[WeAAsles]

Fucking a straight it has *****.

If they were smart they would consider shutting this site down permanently. Unless the couple of bucks that comes in from ad revenue hits is worth the possible heat?

 

[ATD]

If they were smart they would consider shutting this site down permanently. Unless the couple of bucks that comes in from ad revenue hits is worth the possible heat?

What's a matter weasy tired of this stupid ASSociation getting their teeth kick in at every turn.
Just look at who is in charge. I have said from day one the folks in charge do not represent the members, but themselves..
What will shutting down this blog accomplish.

 

[Kev3188]

Why would the board shut down? The TOS clearly states that members are responsible for their own content.

Weez and the rest of the Frittata Squad™️ are probably just worried their words will come back to haunt them.

 

[WeAAsles]

What's a matter weasy tired of this stupid ASSociation getting their teeth kick in at every turn.
Just look at who is in charge. I have said from day one the folks in charge do not represent the members, but themselves..
What will shutting down this blog accomplish.

This blog site is nowhere near what it once was anyway. It’s become nothing more than a conduit for people to ***** and moan about pretty much anything they can think of. The owner is some guy who lives in Oklahoma who has no interaction here and likely only keeps it and others running to collect the checks that some minor ad revenue brings in.

Thanks to Facebook most Blog sites are extremely low revenue generators.

But I’m sure the owner will continue to let this thing sputter along just like MySpace is still out there too.

 

[WeAAsles]

What's a matter weasy tired of this stupid ASSociation getting their teeth kick in at every turn.
Just look at who is in charge. I have said from day one the folks in charge do not represent the members, but themselves..
What will shutting down this blog accomplish.

And it also has more people who Troll and don’t even work for AA posting than it does people who actually work for the Airline.

Even you HIDE behind a mask not posting your real name.

 

[CremaDiLimone]

Too late. They have and are using quotes from social media, including Airline Forums.

the union(s) can argue that some posters with inflammatory remarks could be someone who works for taco bell or aa mngt.

the union(s) can argue that angry comments from someone who is established to be a union big-shooter are personal opinions and not an official stance of the union(s).

after all, aa has stated that the supervisor who verbally bullied an AMT on video is not representative of the respect aa has for AMTs and all employees.

it could go back and forth. as the pilots and f/a unions have stated, tell aa mngt., to look in the mirror.

the old aa that led the way would NEVER buy new planes of an unknown class..allowing united/delta to purchase new 777s & md-11s and work out the kinks for a year or two with boeing and mc-douglass.

the us/aw way is not working. drop it and drop it quickly.

 

[Kev3188]

This blog site is nowhere near what it once was anyway. It’s become nothing more than a conduit for people to ***** and moan about pretty much anything they can think of. The owner is some guy who lives in Oklahoma who has no interaction here and likely only keeps it and others running to collect the checks that some minor ad revenue brings in.

And yet you’re the most prolific user of this site...

Even you HIDE behind a mask not posting your real name.

WeAAsles is your given name?

 

[CremaDiLimone]

For example... And there are 4 pages just on this

so, hearsay and unknown sources are legit? i know that corporate america has rearranged the rules against labor, but to this extent?

i'd argue that some posters who throw bags care more about the company and offer better solutions than 6-7 figure big-shots at HQ.

low level management is abysmal-brutal. level 3 CSMs having no clue - and when told by union members what to do, ignore what they need to do to facilitate a reliable operation, but they can tell you how many sugars the new good-looking CARs agent wants in her coffee.

total $****-show.

 

[WeAAsles]

the union(s) can argue that some posters with inflammatory remarks could be someone who works for taco bell or aa mngt.

the union(s) can argue that angry comments from someone who is established to be a union big-shooter are personal opinions and not an official stance of the union(s).

after all, aa has stated that the supervisor who verbally bullied an AMT on video is not representative of the respect aa has for AMTs and all employees.

it could go back and forth. as the pilots and f/a unions have stated, tell aa mngt., to look in the mirror.

the old aa that led the way would NEVER buy new planes of an unknown class..allowing united/delta to purchase new 777s & md-11s and work out the kinks for a year or two with boeing and mc-douglass.

the us/aw way is not working. drop it and drop it quickly.

Unless they subpoena for the actual names of some of the posters here, you’re 100% right. Even I can claim in a Court of Law without that information provided by the site owner that I’m not really who I’ve claimed to be all these years. Maybe an imposter has been using a certain name and likeness here?

I think this site condones and encourages lots of imposters and inflammatory postings by its lack of oversight.

Even people on Facebook have their identities stolen every day.

 

[1AA]

What's a matter weasy tired of this stupid ASSociation getting their teeth kick in at every turn.
Just look at who is in charge. I have said from day one the folks in charge do not represent the members, but themselves..
What will shutting down this blog accomplish.

Oh yea shut down this aviation site that covers all areas of aviation including American airlines. Wow, that's an incredible thought without considering the 1,000's of others who could care less about what's happening at American airlines.
Glad we have moderators who have the authority to enforce the rules when violations occur. Especially personal attacks that include profanity and posts that cross over to liable repercussions. After the hearing come July we will see if negotiations resume. If a fine is imposed then we might see movement in negotiations.

 

[B737 driver]

ridiculous. Stop the insanity. Didn't you realize that the company would use this crap in a district court? I'm glad it did because I want you and other IAM Officers to be more professional. This company isn't going to sit across a table from your handlers when you and other negotiation committee members are talking smack about destroying our company. Would you sit across from someone who talked to you that way? NOPE. In the meantime, 32,000 human beings go without pay raises and benefit increases because you and other $155,000 salary IAM Officers are being unprofessional. STOP IT!

Stop this madness! Move on some issues. The company proposal is industry leading as is, but if you kooks stop the madness, you should be able to finish the work and get some improvements like a medical cap, and maybe IAH and RSW, and a bit more wage. Stop threatening a healthy company, move off of some ridiculous issues and we will have a deal. Stop putting dues ahead of me and others you are representing. You gotta get off your high horse and do better math. You aren't going to get 20 more stations, for 63 total. NOT HAPPENING! Stop thinking about those 2,500 additional members but focus on the ones you already are paid to represent. Scrap the whole 20 more station crap and you might get IAH and RSW. You might get a cap on medical. We might get a wage bump.
That's about it. Otherwise, you guys did amazingly good on the other 40 items which all were improved upon.

You guys are where we were two years ago. Unfortunately the Association sacrificed their queen in this Chess game to try to win. So with this lawsuit there will a settlement with a T/A . If it passes then the Association will blame the membership for voting it in, especially if they do not endorse it. A few people near retirement complaining with not threaten their grip on this membership and they know it.

 

[Kev3188]

so, hearsay and unknown sources are legit? i know that corporate america has rearranged the rules against labor, but to this extent?

They just subpoena the IP addresses of the posts they want. It’s been done before.

i'd argue that some posters who throw bags care more about the company and offer better solutions than 6-7 figure big-shots at HQ.

I agree 100%!

Unless they subpoena for the actual names of some of the posters here, you’re 100% right. Even I can claim in a Court of Law without that information provided by the site owner that I’m not really who I’ve claimed to be all these years. Maybe an imposter has been using a certain name and likeness here?

I think this site condones and encourages lots of imposters and inflammatory postings by its lack of oversight.

Even people on Facebook have their identities stolen every day.

Good attempt at weaseling, Dave. Probably too late for you, though.