American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[1AA]

Pilots are paid when aircraft is in the sky. Mechanics while on the ground. So I would doubt it.

Are you getting paid for working on the grounded MAX 737's?
Are the pilots getting paid for not flying aircraft?
Basically the 737 MAX is not the only aircraft available to fly.
If we as AMT'S are working on aircraft regardless of type then the pilots should be paid flying aircraft of any type. If we are working on aircraft then pilots are flying them. If the pilots lawsuit has merit then we should follow with one. A precedence will be set. Then it will be flight attendants and rampers and ticket agents. We all have choices of equipment to operate respectively. I doubt the grounding of the MAX will lead to career suicide for the pilots.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

No. No. No. No burden of proof is needed for you since i wasnt even talking to you. Didnt your dad teach you not to bud into other conversations?
Lali lu lu -1

Let me point out your stupidity.

1. The nature of a forum is by definition a public conversation.

2. That was not a conversation, it was a public accusation.

If you want to have a 1 on 1 conversation I suggest you use the private message feature.

 

[iluvaa]

Let's review your statement shall we? Here let me translate what you wrote.

Translation: I make serious accusations to sway public opinion without proof.Translation:When asked to validate what I have said I go on the defensive.



That pretty much sum it up Tim?


You insult me and tell me "don't be so lazy and a blowhard, read the documents yourself online". I might remind you sir YOU made the statement. The burden of proof is on YOU to provide.



Any person of integrity, decency, and honor would not make such statements without proof. He certainly would not go on the defensive when proof was requested by the very audience he is disseminating information to. You obviously place no value on your reputation which speaks volumes about what kind of person we're dealing with.

https://doc-0k-2c-docs.googleuserco.../1-W0RVmT9ewYfw5-fENV2KBvoHkx2gTb5?e=download

 

[1AA]

Hold on boys, let me get the popcorn. LOL....

Let me point out your stupidity.

1. The nature of a forum is by definition a public conversation.

2. That was not a conversation, it was a public accusation.

If you want to have a 1 on 1 conversation I suggest you use the private message feature.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

https://doc-0k-2c-docs.googleuserco.../1-W0RVmT9ewYfw5-fENV2KBvoHkx2gTb5?e=download

I will read it over completely and comment at a later time.

As of now I have done Google searches on SOME of the quotes cited on page 14 of the document that have returned results pointing to this Forum. However when I click the link the results are nowhere to be found.

I believe this forum has been "sanitized" and since the document did not reference screen names it may be difficult to verify who said what.

I appreciate you uploading the document.

Thank you.

 

[iluvaa]

I will read it over completely and comment at a later time.

As of now I have done Google searches on SOME of the quotes cited on page 14 of the document that have returned results pointing to this Forum. However when I click the link the results are nowhere to be found.

I believe this forum has been "sanitized" and since the document did not reference screen names it may be difficult to verify who said what.

I appreciate you uploading the document.

Thank you.

This forum has 100% been wiped clean of harmful comments

 

[dfw gen]

This forum has 100% been wiped clean of harmful comments

Fucking a straight it has *****.

 

[NYer]

Fucking a straight it has *****.

Too late. They have and are using quotes from social media, including Airline Forums.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Too late. They have and are using quotes from social media, including Airline Forums.

As far as I can tell, only one airline forums poster was sfupid enough to allege a slowdown. He dont listen but the company doesnt play.

 

[NYer]

As far as I can tell, only one airline forums poster was sfupid enough to allege a slowdown. He dont listen but the company doesnt play.

There were several.

 

[NYer]

For example... And there are 4 pages just on this

 

[Tim Nelson]

For example... And there are 4 pages just on this

They got Charlie Brown caught dead to right. lol, yeah I remembered that, but I just searched and it was all subpoenaed or cleaned. He mentioned this junk on his videos and rebuking Al and saying "I thought you had some time" was in poor taste. That one was Charlie Brown. I remember. Then I also remember him mocking the injunction like it wouldn't happen. I keep telling him to be more professional but he don't listen. Now, it all came back to bite him in the arse.

Charlie is stubborn as all get out. Nice guy but boy is that dude stubborn. He is his own worst enemy but I still hope he learns from the error of his ways since he is on the negotiation committee and an official officer of the IAM. Bad!

 

[Tim Nelson]

Really??
If everyone followed the safety guidelines that the company can and has disciplined people for not following, you actually think a injunction could happen?
Ok. Won’t argue with that logic.

Yes. I do. It did. Stop your stupidness. This crap is costing us our negotiations and the company is not going to deal with your madness. You are a negotiator and a IAM District Officer. Knock this crap off.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Wow. I thought you had some time with the company?? You have to be told what to do?

I see company safety violations being done every day on pretty much every flight. We don’t even work by the company’s safety guidelines they ask us to follow.

ridiculous. Stop the insanity. Didn't you realize that the company would use this crap in a district court? I'm glad it did because I want you and other IAM Officers to be more professional. This company isn't going to sit across a table from your handlers when you and other negotiation committee members are talking smack about destroying our company. Would you sit across from someone who talked to you that way? NOPE. In the meantime, 32,000 human beings go without pay raises and benefit increases because you and other $155,000 salary IAM Officers are being unprofessional. STOP IT!

Stop this madness! Move on some issues. The company proposal is industry leading as is, but if you kooks stop the madness, you should be able to finish the work and get some improvements like a medical cap, and maybe IAH and RSW, and a bit more wage. Stop threatening a healthy company, move off of some ridiculous issues and we will have a deal. Stop putting dues ahead of me and others you are representing. You gotta get off your high horse and do better math. You aren't going to get 20 more stations, for 63 total. NOT HAPPENING! Stop thinking about those 2,500 additional members but focus on the ones you already are paid to represent. Scrap the whole 20 more station crap and you might get IAH and RSW. You might get a cap on medical. We might get a wage bump.
That's about it. Otherwise, you guys did amazingly good on the other 40 items which all were improved upon.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

Looks like you GOT served. LOL

With what?

The document I requested?

You really are a fool of fools.