American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[charlie Brown]

I'm sure that $30K+ raise you just got helps keep you grounded.

BTW, when's the last time you actually saw the inside of a bin?

Saw the inside of a bin just a couple weeks ago. But in my 33 years on the ramp, I’ve probably seen a hell of a lot more bins than you.
And it wasn’t a 30 k raise. But keep spewing your false crap.

 

[we're screwed]

We went through two bankruptcies in our days. Were you sympathetic to us then?

You are correct.....In your days. My argument is not what you, or I lost in previous bankruptcy. It's that a workgroup that is supposed to be one, is working along side each other with 1/3 getting better benefits than the other. Sure, lets sit on our hands and wait it out.

 

[Kev3188]

Saw it, or actually worked it?

And since 33 is more than 22, I would certainly hope you've seen more than I have!

 

[charlie Brown]

thats a good point. in hind sight cant say that i was, due to two separate entities or worlds.i didnt take advantage of the situation though. but i have a feeling in the future we will have the opportunity to share another one

Haha. You might be right, even though I hope your not. But if I know Parker, he is only out to get rich off our backs. So if it’s better for him to go through bankruptcy, then I have no doubt, he would.

 

[charlie Brown]

Saw it, or actually worked it?

And since 33 is more than 22, I would certainly hope you've seen more than I have!

Lol. Didn’t work it. Just went to speak to someone that had requested to see me.
But I never hated working bins. You can ask anyone that knows me. In fact, I actually miss it, except on the 30 degree rainy windy days.

 

[charlie Brown]

You are correct.....In your days. My argument is not what you, or I lost in previous bankruptcy. It's that a workgroup that is supposed to be one, is working along side each other with 1/3 getting better benefits than the other. Sure, lets sit on our hands and wait it out.

But you went through your bankruptcy before the merger also. So what’s the difference? And Like I said on a earlier post. Why is the blame not at the company. The IAM and association is trying to get you the things your talking about. But as of right now. We have to give up thousands of jobs to get that. Is that the Association’s fault?

 

[dfw gen]

You see. You make my exact point from my previous post. You blame the IAM for you not having these things.
Info: It was AA that put you into bankruptcy, not the IAM.
It is AA that is choosing not to give you your sick time and holidays unless you agree to give up thousand of jobs.
I guess the question that needs to be asked here, is, are you willing to give up thousands of your current jobs to get your holidays and sick time? If you are? Then yes, that’s the unions fault for not letting you vote for what’s being offered. Guilty as charged.

hmmmm i blame the structure of the association, for not showing solidarity from day 1. i blame the association for allowing one of the associates to sit on the sidelines, "because it was not the time" to protest. i blame the association for allowing its associate to suddenly get pissed off when its benefits are threatened now its a priority. i blame the association for allowing the one of the associates to allow this to go on so long before it became a priority. i assure you if the shoe was on the other foot i would be screaming at the injustice of it. and yes it has to be sitting next to you to actually be aware of it. no im sorry but the iam took every excuse up to last July to sit it out. you confuse where the animosity comes from, the lack of support will not be forgotten.
no i dont blame the union. there is a difference

 

[dfw gen]

again i really would like to know who whispered in jim littles ear the little dues check off card trick. that boy deserves a raise. usually when you stick it in that deep you use a little Vaseline.

 

[charlie Brown]

hmmmm i blame the structure of the association, for not showing solidarity from day 1. i blame the association for allowing one of the associates to sit on the sidelines, "because it was not the time" to protest. i blame the association for allowing its associate to suddenly get pissed off when its benefits are threatened now its a priority. i blame the association for allowing the one of the associates to allow this to go on so long before it became a priority. i assure you if the shoe was on the other foot i would be screaming at the injustice of it. and yes it has to be sitting next to you to actually be aware of it. no im sorry but the iam took every excuse up to last July to sit it out. you confuse where the animosity comes from, the lack of support will not be forgotten.
no i dont blame the union. there is a difference

Your wrong. The IAM wasn’t at the first info picket, and I have shared the reason, but We were at the others. In fact the second one in dfw, that you like to say we didn’t attend, percentage wise, we showed up better than the twu. Your own twu guys will admit this. But AGAIN I agree, everyone should have got to vote on the association.

 

[charlie Brown]

again i really would like to know who whispered in jim littles ear the little dues check off card trick. that boy deserves a raise. usually when you stick it in that deep you use a little Vaseline.

Sorry, I don’t have a clue on that one.

 

[dfw gen]

Your wrong. The IAM wasn’t at the first info picket, and I have shared the reason, but We were at the others. In fact the second one in dfw, that you like to say we didn’t attend, percentage wise, we showed up better than the twu. Your own twu guys will admit this. But AGAIN I agree, everyone should have got to vote on the association.

bull **** i was at both of them.

 

[dfw gen]

Your wrong. The IAM wasn’t at the first info picket, and I have shared the reason, but We were at the others. In fact the second one in dfw, that you like to say we didn’t attend, percentage wise, we showed up better than the twu. Your own twu guys will admit this. But AGAIN I agree, everyone should have got to vote on the association.

then bring it to a vote.

 

[charlie Brown]

bull **** i was at both of them.

Call bull all you want. Call your vp in dfw and ask him.

 

[charlie Brown]

then bring it to a vote.

If I had that ability. I would.

 

[charlie Brown]

Call bull all you want. Call your vp in dfw and ask him.

Correction if your a mechanic which I believe you are. Call the vp of the ramp, he will confirm it. I’m not sure who the vp of Dfw maintenance is.