American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[WeAAsles]

All the handful of Trolls here on Forums can do is throw, throw, throw those rocks.

You’re not hitting anybody anyway.

 

[Rogallo]

All the handful of Trolls here on Forums can do is throw, throw, throw those rocks.

You’re not hitting anybody anyway.


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Oh Brother!

 

[scorpion 2]

All the handful of Trolls here on Forums can do is throw, throw, throw those rocks.

You’re not hitting anybody anyway.


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Obviously one persons getting peppered. YOU!!!!
What his statement should say is “My signature won’t go on a contract that threatens to cut dues money coming my way”.

 

[WeAAsles]

Obviously one persons getting peppered. YOU!!!!
What his statement should say is “My signature won’t go on a contract that threatens to cut dues money coming my way”.

Actually what I notice is “”””ALL”””” of the Rock Throwers have North of 30 years in the Company and are nearing 60 if they aren’t already there.

That group is of course fine with selling out the future when they aren’t going to be around to have to take ownership of that choice.

They’re trying to push (Bad place for it actually) to pressure the Leaderships of both Unions to take what the Company is offering so they can build up to cash out.

It’s annoying I will say, but nothing more than that.

 

[WeAAsles]

April 17th Tulsa Rally for Educating on Aircraft Safety & Outsourcing


The Transport Workers Union Local 514 and area Labor supporters will be rallying, Please make time to participate in this event.

Transport Workers Union & International Association of Machinists Rallying together for Aircraft Safety and Educating on Outsourcing

April 17th, 2019
6AM-9AM & 11AM-1PM & 3PM-5PM
Tulsa International Airport & Additional Sites

We will be across from the Wheel & Brake Center at the old Ford lot, we will be on the southeast corner of Sheridan & Apache by the APU Shop. We will be on the side walk outside of the front gate at the American Airlines Maintenance Base and we will be at the Arrivals area by the statues at the Tulsa Airport.

We will meet at 5:30AM at the Union Hall the morning of the 17th of April. We will load up the Coach bus with some signs and members to go to Airport and we can also use the coach at this time to drive some to the other rally points as the van driver gets some members to the APU, Wheel&Brake and AA Maintenance.

Parking for attendees, other than those who have employee parking at the airport, will be available at the TWU514 Union Hall, 11945 East Pine Street in Tulsa. Shuttle service will be provided to and from the Union Hall and Rally Sites.

After each event, all participants are invited to join us at the Union Hall for a Unity Luncheon provided by the Transport Workers Union Local 514.

We need to go over briefly but most importantly, safety first out picketing. Will go over a few rules and also will discuss the Officers (marshals) and what that means at the spots we will be located……..thanks!

In Solidarity,

Linda Dill
Interim Chairman of MLS

 

[Rogallo]

Cha-Ching!

 

[scorpion 2]

Actually what I notice is “”””ALL”””” of the Rock Throwers have North of 30 years in the Company and are nearing 60 if they aren’t already there.

That group is of course fine with selling out the future when they aren’t going to be around to have to take ownership of that choice.

They’re trying to push (Bad place for it actually) to pressure the Leaderships of both Unions to take what the Company is offering so they can build up to cash out.

It’s annoying I will say, but nothing more than that.

That’s complete BS. Nothing in the current scope forces the company to bring new work in or maintain a current level of head count. Nothing!!! There’s loopholes built in to get around the outsourcing percentage already. Don’t guilt trip this crowd it won’t work.

 

[WeAAsles]

That’s complete BS. Nothing in the current scope forces the company to bring new work in or maintain a current level of head count. Nothing!!! There’s loopholes built in to get around the outsourcing percentage already. Don’t guilt trip this crowd it won’t work.

Not guilt tripping anyone. You people feel no guilt. You rally against the TWU old timers of the past who screwed you and you’re no different than they are now that you’re wearing their shoes.

I don’t care what you want or who you are today. I just want to read just one of you be honest about it.

Just say simply:

“WeAAsles I don’t care. It’s my time and I just want to get what I feel I deserve. I don’t give a damn about people I don’t know. I don’t owe them nothing”

I can respect a guy who just flat out says it.

 

[Tim Nelson]

I would think hes in over his head wherever he is

He was over his head when he was a shop steward.

 

[scorpion 2]

Not guilt tripping anyone. You people feel no guilt. You rally against the TWU old timers of the past who screwed you and you’re no different than they are now that you’re wearing their shoes.

I don’t care what you want or who you are today. I just want to read just one of you be honest about it.

Just say simply:

“WeAAsles I don’t care. It’s my time and I just want to get what I feel I deserve. I don’t give a damn about people I don’t know. I don’t owe them nothing”

I can respect a guy who just flat out says it.

Your grasping hard for leverage on this one. Is anyone pushing for a two tier pay scale so we can get better deal? What about a huge buy out package and let the unborn pay for it? (The buy out negotiated in 1983 would be worth over 250k in today’s money.) A longer progression to top out? Less vacation? The answer is obviously a resounding “NO”. There isn’t any golden parachute being asked for just a handful of items we lost in 2003 to make life easier. No screwing to the youngans as you suggest. Like I said earlier the scope as written can be worked to get the company what wants it just may not be written as they would like.
This isn’t a get rich contract by any means just a closer to normal contract.

Good god man we’ve been walking in the desert for 16 years and we need a drink! It’s like we’re standing on top of the hill looking down at the Oasis and this big stinking ASS is blocking our way.

 

[blue collar]

Your association approved a longer progression to top out with out you even voting on it.

 

[Matt1200]

I would like to see the company proposal in writing. The complete proposal. Enough of what the association is telling me. I will more than likely not see another contract before I retire. I have been in this industry for over 39 an and lived in 9 different states. I sacrificed a lot and my family as well.

 

[WeAAsles]

Your grasping hard for leverage on this one. Is anyone pushing for a two tier pay scale so we can get better deal? What about a huge buy out package and let the unborn pay for it? (The buy out negotiated in 1983 would be worth over 250k in today’s money.) A longer progression to top out? Less vacation? The answer is obviously a resounding “NO”. There isn’t any golden parachute being asked for just a handful of items we lost in 2003 to make life easier. No screwing to the youngans as you suggest. Like I said earlier the scope as written can be worked to get the company what wants it just may not be written as they would like.
This isn’t a get rich contract by any means just a closer to normal contract.

Good god man we’ve been walking in the desert for 16 years and we need a drink! It’s like we’re standing on top of the hill looking down at the Oasis and this big stinking ASS is blocking our way.

You’re not walking in the dessert by any means. Do you want to tell me how much you were making per hour when the BK hit and how much you’re making now? I know I’m up almost 50% so I’m guessing you’re pretty close as well.

And you’re wrong about your language. If the work exists to be done the Asso. is fighting to make sure it’s you putting your wrench to it. (Or Union Represented Members in the future)

 

[WeAAsles]

Your association approved a longer progression to top out with out you even voting on it.

Correct. And that was a concession wasn’t it. So it does show that the Asso. is flexible doesn’t it.

And 12 years is not what the Asso. proposed but I wouldn’t be surprised to see it survive.

 

[WeAAsles]

I would like to see the company proposal in writing. The complete proposal. Enough of what the association is telling me. I will more than likely not see another contract before I retire. I have been in this industry for over 39 an and lived in 9 different states. I sacrificed a lot and my family as well.

I would also very much like to see those ENTIRE Company proposals in writing as well. Can you tell me how we can get them to release that?

In Fleet I’m particularly looking to see the “When and where so directed” and “Core Work” language to see how the Company wants to incorporate that into my Contract?