American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[swamt]

Just curious..... if our Association performed a "Vote of No Confidence" in Parker as CEO, would that catch the attention of the BOD and/or the flying public?

Bin, I can assure you, when AMFA did it for our LN, they did take notice, and now look where it took him. An outsider came in and got it done and he has only been here 1 month at that time, hmmm.

 

[swamt]

Done deal???
Why is that? As we did not see any sigs from the union, will the membership still have to vote on these changes? Anything that changes the contract, "anything", rather good or bad should have to be voted on by the membership period. Don't get me wrong, this very well could be a great deal for the fleet boys, but, it very easily could also go the other way in future LOA changes. It's in our by-laws and very well known, that any change what-so-ever in our contract has to be voted on the the entire membership not just signed off by the union and co.
This would go hand and hand with that part where the union signed off on the raises for the co. to do both metal work. A huge change in the contract and no one member of the rank and file had a say so within a vote, not ONE.

Hey Ken, you can give me all the disagree red X's your little heart desires. It does NOT change the fact that you had NOTHING to come back with, hence, the No response from you.
It's still a fact that the membership had no say so in the agreement of both sides working the metal in exchange for the raises (they bought it) and this asso. bought off on it and sold the membership out just like that. Yes, I know it suks, but that is how this asso works and screws the members. And it just happened again with another LOA change in contract with no members voting for it or against it. What is to stop this asso. from another LOA with drastic changes in an LOA and again no vote from the members, just forced upon them just like the asso. was. Try and disagree with that Ken, you can't, it happened, it's the truth. Typical industrial unions...

 

[WeAAsles]

Just curious..... if our Association performed a "Vote of No Confidence" in Parker as CEO, would that catch the attention of the BOD and/or the flying public?

It certainly could be sent out to the Media. But it would have to be specific as to why the Association no longer has any confidence in Parker and his team being able to continue to steer the ship.

The attention could be gained by Wall Street more than Main Street since AAL’s share performance is dismal next to our peers.

 

[AANOTOK]

Hey Ken, you can give me all the disagree red X's your little heart desires. It does NOT change the fact that you had NOTHING to come back with, hence, the No response from you.
It's still a fact that the membership had no say so in the agreement of both sides working the metal in exchange for the raises (they bought it) and this asso. bought off on it and sold the membership out just like that. Yes, I know it suks, but that is how this asso works and screws the members. And it just happened again with another LOA change in contract with no members voting for it or against it. What is to stop this asso. from another LOA with drastic changes in an LOA and again no vote from the members, just forced upon them just like the asso. was. Try and disagree with that Ken, you can't, it happened, it's the truth. Typical industrial unions...

swamt, it wasn't Ken...it was 700 and his team members playing along. The sick man stole Kens Facebook pic and used it. A current poster here knew it wasn't Ken (he knows him personally and knows he is not the way 700 was portraying him). 700 and his team memeber think I'm Ken and thought they were doing something to me. Shows you just how low these guys will go. He was booted once again. The other team member was exposed as well but begged the Mods to remove all those posts and they did. Wouldn't worry too much about the red, the man is a sicko.

 

[AANOTOK]

Just curious..... if our Association performed a "Vote of No Confidence" in Parker as CEO, would that catch the attention of the BOD and/or the flying public?

The better question is what would a "Vote of No Confidence" in the Association do?

 

[Tim Nelson]

Hey Ken, you can give me all the disagree red X's your little heart desires. It does NOT change the fact that you had NOTHING to come back with, hence, the No response from you.
It's still a fact that the membership had no say so in the agreement of both sides working the metal in exchange for the raises (they bought it) and this asso. bought off on it and sold the membership out just like that. Yes, I know it suks, but that is how this asso works and screws the members. And it just happened again with another LOA change in contract with no members voting for it or against it. What is to stop this asso. from another LOA with drastic changes in an LOA and again no vote from the members, just forced upon them just like the asso. was. Try and disagree with that Ken, you can't, it happened, it's the truth. Typical industrial unions...

you finally get it.
Something happened with Ken though. And it appeared that 700 knew he was going to join this forum.
Ken supports the association and that is his right but there will never be a vote on a contract, due to the iam pension, so other than Ken's support for the association, he will have to be content with his twu contract because his union already agreed to the "wages for dues" deal.
regards,

 

[WeAAsles]

swamt, it wasn't Ken...it was 700 and his team members playing along. The sick man stole Kens Facebook pic and used it. A current poster here knew it wasn't Ken (he knows him personally and knows he is not the way 700 was portraying him). 700 and his team memeber think I'm Ken and thought they were doing something to me. Shows you just how low these guys will go. He was booted once again. The other team member was exposed as well but begged the Mods to remove all those posts and they did. Wouldn't worry too much about the red, the man is a sicko.

Can you ever stay on topic?

 

[WeAAsles]

The better question is what would a "Vote of No Confidence" in the Association do?

Just make it take much much much longer for you to get a contract and get to the money you want so desperately.

Now I guess you and I have to go back and forth again?

NEXT......

 

[AANOTOK]

Hey Ken, you can give me all the disagree red X's your little heart desires. It does NOT change the fact that you had NOTHING to come back with, hence, the No response from you.
It's still a fact that the membership had no say so in the agreement of both sides working the metal in exchange for the raises (they bought it) and this asso. bought off on it and sold the membership out just like that. Yes, I know it suks, but that is how this asso works and screws the members. And it just happened again with another LOA change in contract with no members voting for it or against it. What is to stop this asso. from another LOA with drastic changes in an LOA and again no vote from the members, just forced upon them just like the asso. was. Try and disagree with that Ken, you can't, it happened, it's the truth. Typical industrial unions...

There is no doubt Ken is a strong union man. Union Steward for many years and a good one at that. If you disagree with him that's fine, but he wouldn't act like some of those here if you do disagree with him. And he sure wouldn't act the way he was portrayed by the 700 team.
Ken is a good man and didn't/doesn't deserve what the team portrayed him as...shameful.

 

[B737 driver]

Ive gotten to know some of his coworkers and lets just say that they barely see him.

And the truth shall set you free! 🙂

 

[B737 driver]

Just curious..... if our Association performed a "Vote of No Confidence" in Parker as CEO, would that catch the attention of the BOD and/or the flying public?

We did it at SWA, what really got their attention is when guys,got fired for not following procedures, we followed procedures, and everything was a legitimate write up, for being broke, and it was hard broke, like corrosion, cracks, leaks, torn up bag bins, ect.

 

[WeAAsles]

There is no doubt Ken is a strong union man. Union Steward for many years and a good one at that. If you disagree with him that's fine, but he wouldn't act like some of those here if you do disagree with him. And he sure wouldn't act the way he was portrayed by the 700 team.
Ken is a good man and didn't/doesn't deserve what the team portrayed him as...shameful.

If YOU are Ken and I still think you are YOU are not a strong Union man (Neither was Ken BTW) and I’ll tell you why.

YOU (And Ken as I remember) do nothing but criticize constantly.

CB, P. Rez and others from the Association have come on here and always try to answer all the questions you have. And I’ve even seen you thank them after they have. But then as soon as (You think) they’re gone you start to almost immediately begin to criticize AGAIN. You do it every single time. I never read you show them even an ounce of support. You do know that those guys are a part of the Association you put down so often right.

And I think you are Ken because I remember Ken having the same exact horrible attributes.

And BTW just ONCE look in the mirror. You have your own pack of dogs that LOVE to attack and they attack here every single day.

I know CB, P. Rez and others read here. PLEASE do not answer AANOTOK any longer. He has ZERO appreciation when you do.

 

[WeAAsles]

 

[AANOTOK]

you finally get it.
Something happened with Ken though. And it appeared that 700 knew he was going to join this forum.
Ken supports the association and that is his right but there will never be a vote on a contract, due to the iam pension, so other than Ken's support for the association, he will have to be content with his twu contract because his union already agreed to the "wages for dues" deal.
regards,

Tim, I have never heard of Ken wanting to join this forum. If you do know that for a fact, have him join, that way he can fight his own battle.
A 700 team member doesn't think very highly of him and he can debate that if he chooses. I would imagine after 700 and his teams shameful act, he will have to jump through hoops to register, but it can be done. But then if I'm him, whew, it's gonna be tough... 🙂

 

[Kev3188]

I know CB, P. Rez and others read here. PLEASE do not answer AANOTOK any longer. He has ZERO appreciation when you do.

Good job virtue signaling, but I’m sure both of them know what equal representation means. That’s union 101.