ALPA - Management relations to improve?

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Expect to hear more news on the CRJ-705, pension, and sick policy disputes between ALPA & the Company. There is reason to believe the strained relations between management and the pilot group may improve.

Best regards,

Chip
 
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On 5/29/2003 9:33:35 PM Chip Munn wrote:

Expect to hear more news on the CRJ-705, pension, and sick policy disputes between ALPA & the Company. There is reason to believe the strained relations between management and the pilot group may improve.

Best regards,

Chip

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Chip,
Can you elaborate on that a bit more? I see NO end in site for the hostilities between labor and management. There are only 2 ways now I think this could happen.

1) This one is my favorite...Current managment resigns or gets forced out.
Labor would be ecstatic.

2) Cry-baby Dave...gives some sort of guarantee that their would be NO MORE job loses. They will need to try and cut cost elsewhere. If they need to get rid of people, offer voluntary leaves every six months for at least a year. This way there is no CONSTANT threat over or heads if we will still have a job in six months.
 
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Twicebacked:

Twicebacked asked: "Can you elaborate on that a bit more?"

Chip answers: No, but you may hear some positive news in the near future.

Best regards,

Chip
 
Relations with ALPA will improve if & when management has a change of heart and shows themselves to be honest and respectful people. Relations will improve when the energy and resources now devoted to attacking the employee groups are instead diverted toward building a stronger, and growing, mainline US Airways.

Failing this I feel we are on the verge of a total disconnect between management & employees, and a resulting implosion of the quality of the airline to the bottom of the heap.
 
Maybe ALPA''s lawyers read the contract, read the specs on the aircraft, and realized that they were just pi$$ing into the wind.
 
Perhaps the unions should get together and take out full-page ads in the Alabama newspapers... an open letter to Alabama public employees... "this is how your retirement money is being spent, threatening employees, laying them off, lying to them, reducing their salaries and benefits (not once but twice). Let them know how U employees are being treated. Maybe, just maybe, they''ll give a rat''s @ss. Maybe not, but it might be worth a try to go public to our real bosses, the Alabama employees.
 
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On 5/29/2003 9:33:35 PM Chip Munn wrote:

Expect to hear more news on the CRJ-705, pension, and sick policy disputes between ALPA & the Company. There is reason to believe the strained relations between management and the pilot group may improve.

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Chip - with all due respect - this is not the kind of posting I''ve come to expect from you. Rumors and innuendos serve no purpose. If something''s coming soon, why not wait until a formal announcement is made and then provide it with the thought out commentary. Your post does nothing but invite speculation and dissidence.
 
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On 5/30/2003 12:22:37 AM Pacemaker wrote:

Relations with ALPA will improve if & when management has a change of heart and shows themselves to be honest and respectful people. Relations will improve when the energy and resources now devoted to attacking the employee groups are instead diverted toward building a stronger, and growing, mainline US Airways.

Failing this I feel we are on the verge of a total disconnect between management & employees, and a resulting implosion of the quality of the airline to the bottom of the heap.

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You are 100% correct in my view.
 
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On 5/30/2003 10:30:52 AM DCAflyer wrote:


Perhaps the unions should get together and take out full-page ads in the Alabama newspapers... an open letter to Alabama public employees... "this is how your retirement money is being spent, threatening employees, laying them off, lying to them, reducing their salaries and benefits (not once but twice).  Let them know how U employees are being treated.  Maybe, just maybe, they''ll give a rat''s @ss.  Maybe not, but it might be worth a try to go public to our real bosses, the Alabama employees.

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Great Idea!!!!!!!!!
 
I got a great idea...why don''t the employees worry about doing their job, making customers love the airline and let management run the airline. Problems start arising when you let unions into the executive suite and allowing them to have too much control of the carrier. If management screws up...fine. Let them be burnt at the stake by the shareholders and debt holders...you worry about flying the planes safely, keeping passengers comfortable, and maintaining an effecient operation.

Besides...money can be better spent supporting your fellow co-workers who are laid off than running ads in a newspaper that no one is going to pay attention to. Sure it''ll get a little press at first, but then it''ll just go away from the public eye with the only result being more bitterness between management and workers.
 
Everyone,

This thread is easy, Mgt is screwing with YOU and now it''s starting to bite them in the a$$. They no longer have a judge to enable the BK thievery. Now they must honor the contracts or it just keeps getting worse ( operations ).

Obviously ALPA is making headway on the three items Chip listed and answers ( remedies or more lies ) are forthcoming.

KEEP THE HEAT ON
 
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PHL:

There are a number of things happening behind-the-scenes that ALPA does not want released, but there may be an improvement in the company''s attitude towards labor.

It''s to early to tell if things will work out; however, to help boost moral a little bit I believe my post was appropriate.

PHL, I truly wish I could tell more, until the MEC goes public with new information I am not able to provide additional news.

Best regards,

Chip
 
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On 5/30/2003 9:52:40 PM Chip Munn wrote:

There are a number of things happening behind-the-scenes that ALPA does not want released, but there may be an improvement in the company''s attitude towards labor.

It''s to early to tell if things will work out; however, to help boost moral (sic) a little bit I believe my post was appropriate.

PHL, I truly wish I could tell more, until the MEC goes public with new information I am not able to provide additional news.

Best regards,

Chip

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Let me see if I have this right, you''ve posted ''tidbits'' of something the MEC doesn''t want released, especially on a public message board -- but it was important to go ahead with the "Chip knows something you don''t know" because it was a magnanimous act on your part. 

Thank you so much for clearing that up! I was under the impression it was completely self-serving and braggadocian.  

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I hope your not really surprised at this. This is typical Munn at its finest. Savy
 
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On 5/30/2003 9:52:40 PM Chip Munn wrote:

There are a number of things happening behind-the-scenes that ALPA does not want released, but there may be an improvement in the company''s attitude towards labor.

It''s to early to tell if things will work out; however, to help boost moral (sic) a little bit I believe my post was appropriate.

PHL, I truly wish I could tell more, until the MEC goes public with new information I am not able to provide additional news.

Best regards,

Chip

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Let me see if I have this right, you''ve posted ''tidbits'' of something the MEC doesn''t want released, especially on a public message board -- but it was important to go ahead with the "Chip knows something you don''t know" because it was a magnanimous act on your part.

Thank you so much for clearing that up! I was under the impression it was completely self-serving and braggadocian.
 
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