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On 2/5/2003 8:35:45 PM oldiebutgoody wrote:
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On 2/5/2003 7:44:01 PM Biffeman wrote:
Hey oldie, here is one from another message board:
Subject: Re: Payback-Karma
Date: 2/5/2003 4:36 PM Eastern Standard Time
From: Spadulator
You're right , the pilots are scabs for what they did in '92. Worked to Rule' under their contract and FAA regulations. Nothing would have gotten off the ground. Instead they were brought onto the property via a special shuttle so they wouldn't have to cross the picket lines in my location, and helped clean the aircraft on many thru flights.
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Just because you probably wrote it there too doesn't make it right. The pilot union, at the time, had agreed to 50 million/year in concessions. The IAM wanted raises and MORE featherbedding, much of which they got and are paying for now. That's the truth. The F/A union NEVER struck or even recommended that members strike over this. They were in their own negotiations over a contract. I witnessed a couple of "misinformed" F/As try to leave an aircraft on an overnight in sympathy. When they were informed that they would have to leave their IDs, since they would be fired (since there was not a F/A legal job action) they relented and continued to work. The same would have happened to ANY pilot that participated in an illegal work action. Sympathy strikes ARE NOT legal job actions under the RLA. Period. YOU ARE WRONG IN ALL THAT YOU HAVE SAID. STOP TRYING TO INCITE ANYMOSITY AGAINST THE PILOTS. IT IS OBVIOUS THAT THAT IS YOUR GOAL. IF YOU HATE PILOTS, YOU'D BETTER FIND ANOTHER CAREER! Either you have a poor memory or are an outright liar. I know the truth, because I was there!
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First of all I did not write it, I take credit for my work, second of all if you knew anything about why we walked out you would not spew your garbage. We walked out on one paragraph, Article 2b, the scope of our work. We came back to work with a 3.5% paycut, paying more for insurance, and we lost 50% of line mechanics system wide. So better check your history, I was there and involved.
Feather bedding? Ha, what do you call 300+ laid off pilots drawing full pay? What to you call not agreeing to RJs and having all the majors eating away at US market share? Shall I go on, cause obviously you do not know what happened. What do you call a side deal to get paid for not working during the 1992 IAM Strike?
The flight attendants ie AFA did sanction a sympathy strike, why else did US Air go to court to seek an injuction to prevent it?
And I have several pilots at US who are my friends, so I dont hate pilots, I dislike the pilots who agreed to a side deal to stab fellow trade unionist in the back to line their own greedy wallets, Idislike pilots who cleaned airplanes during the 30 day cooling off period and the five day strike.
And why cant you answer where was ALPA in 1992 when ramp and customer service lost it all and had their pension terminated?