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Against Seniority for Non-Rev Travel
- Thread starter SegmentKing
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USCREW
Veteran
This struck me so funny, I almost choked on my "crew water".
Actually its not the only place. I tried to check in online from OREGON, and it wouldnt work for some reason. With the West way (soon to be all of us) rez system, an employee has to have an actual Eticket to check in. You cant just list like on the East side now, so unless your tickets are correct and ticketed right, you arent going to be able to check in online. Funny thing was, my ticket didnt show any problems other than when I was trying to check in online. Checkin at the airport, no problem, check a bag, no problem, get a boarding pass at the airport, no problem, just trying to get on the stupid list, problem!
Until they can get that and the transfer of one flight to another flight with a different city worked out, there is going to be problems.
Now why should anyone care if there is 1 or 3000.
Just about EVERY EMPOLYEE at some time has had to make a choice.
soc-hpjester
Senior
A few thing to consider at the new LCC.
1. There is no pension, think 401k.
2. Senority is for bidding only, not non-reving.
Low pay ?
3. HP people can't waaaaaaait to get raises to US standards. (if that ever really happens)
4. FCFS is the only fair way.
5. Arizona is a right to work state. High turn over at locally owned companies.
1. There is no pension, think 401k.
2. Senority is for bidding only, not non-reving.
Low pay ?
3. HP people can't waaaaaaait to get raises to US standards. (if that ever really happens)
4. FCFS is the only fair way.
5. Arizona is a right to work state. High turn over at locally owned companies.
- Banned
- #52
At East the IAM M&R have a 3% Defined Contribution Plan and the IAM Fleet Service are part of the IAM National Pension Plan which US Airways pays into for each Fleet Service Member.
Seniority is for job classification, shift, days off, location, vacation, pay and for travel (east).
Not all HP employees will get raises, and the CWA/ibt agreement does not bring the HP employees up to US Scale, it is a gradual increase.
Seniority is the only true and fair way, if you dont have internet access how is that fair? If you are in a remote location or out of the country not near a computer, how is that fair?
Right To Work Laws do not apply to Contracts under the Railway Labor Act, Federal Law supercedes State Law.
Care to try again?
Seniority is for job classification, shift, days off, location, vacation, pay and for travel (east).
Not all HP employees will get raises, and the CWA/ibt agreement does not bring the HP employees up to US Scale, it is a gradual increase.
Seniority is the only true and fair way, if you dont have internet access how is that fair? If you are in a remote location or out of the country not near a computer, how is that fair?
Right To Work Laws do not apply to Contracts under the Railway Labor Act, Federal Law supercedes State Law.
Care to try again?
How would you know what is of concern to anyone???? And how does not wanting to use seniority show what we do and don't care about??
Yes, repsect is earned . .not just automatically given because you worked somewhere longer than someone else. There are probably 1-year employees out there that have "earned" more than 20-year employees.
soc-hpjester
Senior
700, I'm still going over your response. The first thing that comes to mind about the FCFS is I can't imagine walking up to a gate and bumping people just because I'm senior to someone. And I'm in the top ten %. And you don't need a computer, just show up as early as possible at the gate to check in.
12 HR before departure
- Banned
- #56
It does not work that way, on East you are suppose to list 24 hours before the flight.
If you show up more then 30 minutes prior to departure you will get a seat, if you show up 30 minutes or less your seniority will not allow you to bump someone off the flight.
And if you are connecting you are all ready listed and on the standby list when you clear your first flight.
Seatacus
Veteran
Many from the West side have said they don't plan on retiring here, so that would make me think that they are only concerned with what the company can do for them NOW.
And not wanting to use seniority shows me that (if you are not senior) that you do care more about yourself and you don't care about those who have invested ,for a longer time,their life's energy into this company.
Look, I don't have a dog in this fight anymore. I am retired and have been shown what this company thinks of me. You guys fight it out amongst yourselves. I could care less what happens. I don't ever plan on non-revving because I don't think I can get on with all of those "actives" ahead of me.
The mindset of the employees who do not respect seniority does not bode well for this company. If you don't care about showing senior people that it is good they stick around then start installing the revolving doors. The company will be demonstrating that they just want a bodies to fill the positions. It will be the downfall of this company.
OldGuyinPA
Veteran
- Aug 20, 2002
- 700
- 8
Amen...Brother
soc-hpjester
Senior
HELP. I'M LOSING GROUND ON THE FCFS ARGUMENT. ANYBODY ?
