Awa Contract
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- Oct 3, 2005
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They comute by choice - that should not override anyone elses right to fly
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Let me ask you a question. What would happen if you were displaced from your current base today? Would you be able to uproot your family and move them to a new crew base? Would your spouse be able to leave their job in hopes of finding a new one in your new crew base? This company just displaced 125 f/a's June 1st from PIT. Do you know how many of those people were in a position to move to their new crew base? I do, less then 5%. The alternative, is to commute or to quit. Guess what, about 5% did have to quit because they are unable to commute for whatever reasons. Until you have walked to the walk, don't judge.They comute by choice - that should not override anyone elses right to fly
There are 500 employees that commute from PIT. That includes crewmembers, ramp, agents, caterers, and mechanics. Not just crewmembers have been thrown out of their bases. They too depend on DOH to get to and from work. This is not just a f/a/pilot issue.Funny how non-rev travel here seems to revolve around commuting. Non-rev travel is suppose to be for leisure. Were I come from, flight crews have access to jump seats. 2 or 3 extra in the cabin and 1 or 2 on the F/D. If these are not enough and crew members can't make it to work then tough. Live were the work is like everyone else. I don't think you will find much sympathy among noncrewmembers.
Yes, and I've written this before. DOH is fair for Easties, FCFS is fair for Westies, and any change is unfair for everyone. I've flown under both systems and I feel FCFS makes the most people happy.The issues are pretty much black and white:
- Easties want DOH cause its what they know, and it helps them get on a plane.. commuters are especially firm on this one
- Westies want FCFS cause its what they know, and feel the Easties will bump the crap out of them systemwide...
Did you LOSE your seniority? Do you not already get higher pay, more vacation, better schedules than your junior counterparts??FCFS is bullshot....
I know many people who have given 3 to 4 decades of their lives working for USAir...ways and have recently retired. Isn't it just ducky to have a 2 month new hire get on a plane before them. You also have love it that a spouse and children fly at a lower level if the employee isn't with them. I'm glad I hung around all these years to treated like this. Lower pay, lousy work rules and retirement pay, no seniority.
Thanks Al....
I don't imagine that you care. Why would you. This will never happen to you.....
Everything that goes around....comes around.
They should move, drive, or quit.Let me ask you a question. What would happen if you were displaced from your current base today? Would you be able to uproot your family and move them to a new crew base? Would your spouse be able to leave their job in hopes of finding a new one in your new crew base? This company just displaced 125 f/a's June 1st from PIT. Do you know how many of those people were in a position to move to their new crew base? I do, less then 5%. The alternative, is to commute or to quit. Guess what, about 5% did have to quit because they are unable to commute for whatever reasons. Until you have walked to the walk, don't judge.
There are 500 employees that commute from PIT. That includes crewmembers, ramp, agents, caterers, and mechanics. Not just crewmembers have been thrown out of their bases. They too depend on DOH to get to and from work. This is not just a f/a/pilot issue.
but of course they won't do anything tainted with logic.It's simple to me: Until the contracts are fairly integrated, thus merging the two companies as one, I say keep the system as is. Doogie is foolish to do anything until the real issues are solved -- contracts, health benefits, etc.
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You are right, I think it will be better to live in a crew base rather then commute. HMMMM where shall I go. Let's see, I think I would like to live in PHX. Here I come with nearly 20 yrs seniority, just so I don't have to commute. Lets just hope that the other 3000 f/a's on the East that commute to their crew bases, don't decide to do the same thing.They should move, drive, or quit.
SA travel is for lesuire.
If i breakdown and deceide to fly for a vacation (40 hrs is enough at an airport) i can accept either doh of fcfs.
Regardless the only check in that should be allowed is in person.
They could put a "fair market value" on SA flying, take this benefit away, give me the value in money or vac.
If i really want to fly somewhere for a vacation, i will buy a ticket.