AA enters LAX -ATL

[WorldTraveler]

sorry, but you are not getting anyone kicked off of any web site for posting facts that you do not agree with.

The fact that you don't have the ability to tolerate divergent points of view says a whole lot about you.

The simple fact is that you CANNOT show that the slight differences in the AA contract vs. what DL have are worth 77% of what AA spends on FAs for its entire FA workforce.

because it is not true.

AA FAs via the APFA were sweet-talked into believing that AA and the rest of the industry could not produce profits that are comparable to the little bit of chump change that AA received in exchange for profit sharing

 

[AdAstraPerAspera]

I read Holly's comments yesterday and I really hope people can get past the extremely large differences in an APFA contract and an AFA contract to do the absolutely obvious choice and vote YES!!!! People are getting stuck on the one thing they may not like in the TA and are completely overreacting. As if they currently love the contract we work under now or in the past. I really HOPE the vast majority are the quiet ones that want what is clearly the closest/best thing we've had offered to us since 9/12/2001!

I voted yes. It sounds like the folks in Chicago are letting cooler heads prevail and voting yes...unfortunately I haven't heard the same about DFW/IDF... I don't know why some are ao insistent on voting no when they will be retiring within 5-10 years anyway...some have even managed to lasso some new hires in with their negativity. If this fails they will only have themselves to blame... Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face. I'd love to tell them "I told you so" but the sad thing is they will blame LG and APFA no matter what happens.

 

[737823]

I voted yes. It sounds like the folks in Chicago are letting cooler heads prevail and voting yes...unfortunately I haven't heard the same about DFW/IDF... I don't know why some are ao insistent on voting no when they will be retiring within 5-10 years anyway...some have even managed to lasso some new hires in with their negativity. If this fails they will only have themselves to blame... Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face. I'd love to tell them "I told you so" but the sad thing is they will blame LG and APFA no matter what happens.

I don't envy LGs position no matter what happens some segment of the membership will not be happy. Most of my F/A friends are no votes.

Josh

 

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

move on and figure out what and why AA/US gets the criticism I give it and what it needs to do to fix it.

 
The first part is easy to figure out:  you're chronically obsessed with all things DL.  How to cure that is about as difficult as containing ebola (isolation would be a good start).

 

[WorldTraveler]

I'm chronically obsessed with exposing untruths.

the APFA, not me, came out and declared they had an industry leading contract.

You have repeatedly tried to discredit what I have said despite the fact that you can't provide any data to support your notion that the difference in AA's contract compared to DL - who raised their salaries within hours of APFA's pronouncement of an industry leading contract - is worth 3/4 of what AA spends on benefits for its entire FA workforce.

the two posts above show your motivation -there are a whole lot of AA FAs who are far from convinced that they got the best deal.

 

[diamondcutter]

sorry, but you are not getting anyone kicked off of any web site for posting facts that you do not agree with.The fact that you don't have the ability to tolerate divergent points of view says a whole lot about you.The simple fact is that you CANNOT show that the slight differences in the AA contract vs. what DL have are worth 77% of what AA spends on FAs for its entire FA workforce.because it is not true.AA FAs via the APFA were sweet-talked into believing that AA and the rest of the industry could not produce profits that are comparable to the little bit of chump change that AA received in exchange for profit sharing

Never said I was getting you kicked of this site , post where I did. What I said is these are reason why you were KICKED off AIRLINERS.NET!!! Our TA is leading , a federal mediator was in on all the negotiations!!! I have the facts from the mediator!!! You were not there and you do not know our TA!! Why would anyone believe you? Because you say it's so!!! Now go write your sermon , none one takes you seriously anymore!!!!

 

[WorldTraveler]

a federal mediator cannot negotiate a deal that includes competitive activity that came AFTER the negotiations.

DL's profit sharing projections for the full year were just released YESTERDAY although weeks ago I accurately estimated a $1 Billion plus full year pie for DL employees.

 

[diamondcutter]

a federal mediator cannot negotiate a deal that includes competitive activity that came AFTER the negotiations.DL's profit sharing projections for the full year were just released YESTERDAY although weeks ago I accurately estimated a $1 Billion plus full year pie for DL employees.

What don't you get , I'm talking total compensation!!! What will the dollar amount be of those check??? 2,000 3,000 a little more . I will make that up in my vacation alone !!

 

[700UW]

I don't envy LGs position no matter what happens some segment of the membership will not be happy. Most of my F/A friends are no votes.

Josh

You have no friends

 

[700UW]

a federal mediator cannot negotiate a deal that includes competitive activity that came AFTER the negotiations.

DL's profit sharing projections for the full year were just released YESTERDAY although weeks ago I accurately estimated a $1 Billion plus full year pie for DL employees.

So how many NMB mediated negotiations have you sat in?
 
As you clearly dont know what transpires.

 

[737823]

You have no friends

 
I have many AA F/A friends.  How many do you know?
 
Josh

 

[robbedagain]

What don't you get , I'm talking total compensation!!! What will the dollar amount be of those check??? 2,000 3,000 a little more . I will make that up in my vacation alone !!

diamond sadly that dl chaplain will never understand nor grasp anything

 

[eolesen]

Isolation seems to work with Ebola. Stop responding, and maybe the WT virus will die out, too.

 

[WorldTraveler]

What don't you get , I'm talking total compensation!!! What will the dollar amount be of those check??? 2,000 3,000 a little more . I will make that up in my vacation alone !!

no you won't.

tell me how much MORE vacation you would have compared to a DL FA at the same scale.

 

[Kev3188]

Ya know what's great? That Diamond, Ad, IORFA, etc. will all get to VOTE on the terms they'll work under.